I am pretty much set on having the machine shop install oil squirters on an LSVTEC my briother and i are building. Now are there any clearence issues?
The machine shop said there probably will be and they recomend cutting the piston, dunno if i like that idea.
How hard are the squirters to bend instead?
And how much cleance should there be between the oil squirter and the piston skirt?

 

There is a way to put piston sprayers inthe engine without ever having clearance
issues. We have been doing this on chevy cup engines for over 10 years
Look@the mains youwill seewhat I am talking about

 

really, hmmm alrighty i will ahve a look when i get home tonight
If i can;t figure it out, will you give me the answer in a pm

 

Do a search for LS Crank. There are several people that have put LS Cranks in GSR blocks and have kept the oil squirters, PM them.

 

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The machine shop said there probably will be and they recomend cutting the piston, dunno if i like that idea.
How hard are the squirters to bend instead?
And how much cleance should there be between the oil squirter and the piston skirt?
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I guess Leitner Performance told you to cut the piston to fit the oil squiter.
Last time Steve told me the same thing... i told them no.. i don't want to cut my piston just to fit oil squiter.
Anyways, they could install squiter without cutting piston it just have to space up the squiter by using copper spacer or they will weld a spacer.
You ask them to weld a spacer on, don't use copper spacer. i don't like copper spacer i have a feel that it'll leak oil...

Two of my B20 and LS have install oil squiter by them and at the end when i assbly the engine i still have cleance problem. I still have to bend the squiter to clear crank and piston.
how much cleance.. i don't really know as long as its not touch the piston and crank, right in the middle i guess.. knifeedge crank will have alot more room for squiter.

 

Yup thats what steve told me.

A spacer hmm thats a damn fine idea.
too bad i have no means of welding aluminum
I could have drilled a hole in the oil passage and welded on a .5inch spacer and taped that hmm

MAX_CFM has another way he siad we was going to post a some diagrams with insructions

 

Ask Kenji about it on this board, he mentioned doing a couple installs of oil squirters and slightly bending then without any clearance issues at all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zc911 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup thats what steve told me.

A spacer hmm thats a damn fine idea.
too bad i have no means of welding aluminum
I could have drilled a hole in the oil passage and welded on a .5inch spacer and taped that hmm

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acutally i can drill a bigger hole in the oil passage, thread an aluminum tube in, have it stick out 1/2 inch, then tap the inside of the aluminum tube and mount up the squirter
hmmmm
bad idea? good iea?

 

dumb question, but how do oil squirters work? I mean they are only mounted on one side of the piston, so how does oil get to the other side of the cylinder??

 

if you are using a forged piston the oil squirter is absolutlely un necessary

 

hmm.. i think its too much work and.. more chance of oil leak...
you only need to space up by around 1/8 inch or less.

I say if you do it youself i suggest drill and tap, copper spacer, and some jb weld for final touch.

If machine shop, just tell them "You want to weld a spacer " ( i feel saver to do this, you don't want any oil leak or the oil squiter turn.)

Leitner Performance is getting lazy... my first LSVTEC they weld a spacer on without me ask them to ,than my 2nd b20vtec they only spacer.

 

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Oil Squiter is aim to the center of the piston.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BustaNutt-616 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you are using a forged piston the oil squirter is absolutlely un necessary
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There are certain applications where there needed
like roadrace engines and circle track engines.
Every single Nascar enginesince the mid 90's has them
if ya dont they go boom
Now for HONDA Drag engines I take them out

 

hmm alrighty i will see how much L&B wants other ise i will try it out with just a drill and a tap and see what kind of clearence there is.


The pistons are JEs 12.5:1. The motor is in a daily driver so anyhting to increase it;s life is a plus


So is it worth it or not?????

 

JE's are forged.....and word of mouth is forged don't need squirters.....

 

I think they charge around $130-150 CND,

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brainwo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think they charge around $130-150 CND,

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ok what did i miss?

 

acutally $200 CAd now

He is reffering to the price the local machine shop charges to install oil squirters.

HMMM why would forged not need squirters?

 

I don't see why not for forged piston, only those who drag race don't use them.

 

they're coated or whatever i guess....again, word of mouth.....

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=533078

Read about forged piston.

 

Good write up......

Forged are all about expanding when heated, plus higher silicon content [in 4032s], so they don't need to be coated like OEM should be....or in thas case have oil squirters to lubricate the cylinders for wear resistance.

 

great link, thanks

hmmm i see what you are saying, oooo i dunno what to do lol

 

i would just sell the LS block and take that money and the money ur goin to spend to have the squirters put in and buy a gs-r block.....so u dont have to go through any headaches...thats what i would do