14:1 and Toda C's...
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so is this done or is this something you want to do?

whats your timing set at?

 

just some ideas.....could be in the works........you know all motor guys and how secertive everything is.......lol...anyone else......


Modified by Drag R at 4:37 AM 7/5/2003

 

Dont think so but I've been wrong before.........It was 1987 and I remember it like it was yesterday

 

If you build a motor that doesn't 'need' alot of ignition timing, than you can probably get away with it with big duration\overlap cams.

Anyways, Isn't Sakai tuning it? Relax...

Suprdave

 

I think with the overlap/duration of the cams you'll see 13:1 compression or so... I can't remember what the loss is with those cams. If Steve is tuning it then you could probabally run 50:1 compression and he would tune it out.. He's that good

 

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Anyways, Isn't Sakai tuning it? Relax...

Suprdave</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey hey hey............lol

 

how much timing ...6 degrees?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drag R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">14:1 and Toda C's...
BUILT THE RIGHT WAY
Fully Tuned Hondata (THE RIGHT WAY)
Dailly Driver on 93/94 octane.

All opinons welcome, with constuctive criticism.......</TD></TR></TABLE>Everyone wants to know how much power are you making?

 

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Well, need to see if works first...

 

I bet he will make 180 to the wheels.

JK his pistons are worth 100whp alone....lol

 

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JK his pistons are worth 100whp alone....lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey im just trying to crack 15's

 

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hey im just trying to crack 15's </TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO

Me too.....lol

 

You will never know until you try

 

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wait let me think...

 

well on that 242whp post....they say they were running over 14:1 on 91 octane with a J&S installed....

 

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BUILT THE RIGHT WAY
Fully Tuned Hondata (THE RIGHT WAY)
Dailly Driver on 93/94 octane.

All opinons welcome, with constuctive criticism.......</TD></TR></TABLE>


the only thing with this is you can run it! but the fact is that the calories in 91 versus let say 110 is way different meaning if you just ran 91 the gas would nto be as cold and then in turn 91 would not be cold enough to diminish the heat inside the cylinder walls created by a 9k rpm shift! not saying it cant happen which I have seen done many many times before, but if you are going to punch it! use race gas! or you'll be melting pistons! juswt my 2 cents

cool thread!

 

bullshit...bottom line is..you can only run around 12.5 to 1 on 93... and thats cutting it close if you dont want to detonate....i know everyone is gonna say.."my friend ran xx to 1 compression....and he doesnt detonate..the truth is, just because you cant hear it ping.....doesnt mean it isnt...if you want to run full timing..you need to build your engine around the octane available to you.....whats the point of having compression so high...that you have to pull all the timing out of it to drive it.?.and then it runs like ****.....i would most certainly rather run full timing on a 12.5 to 1 engine...than 6 degrees on a 14 to 1.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TECH43 RACING INC. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bullshit...bottom line is..you can only run around 12.5 to 1 on 93... and thats cutting it close if you dont want to detonate....i know everyone is gonna say.."my friend ran xx to 1 compression....and he doesnt detonate..the truth is, just because you cant hear it ping.....doesnt mean it isnt...if you want to run full timing..you need to build your engine around the octane available to you.....whats the point of having compression so high...that you have to pull all the timing out of it to drive it.?.and then it runs like ****.....i would most certainly rather run full timing on a 12.5 to 1 engine...than 6 degrees on a 14 to 1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Werd! I totally agree, such high compression does stress your motor, and even if you don't hear it pinging it may be, and that decreases the life of the motor.. you can run 13.5:1 on 93 octane but not for 60-80k miles..

 

how much would the overlap drop the compression?

 

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BUILT THE RIGHT WAY
Fully Tuned Hondata (THE RIGHT WAY)
Dailly Driver on 93/94 octane.

All opinons welcome, with constuctive criticism.......</TD></TR></TABLE>

have sakai burn you two chips ... 1 for 93/94 octane and the other for 110/112


greg

 

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have sakai burn you two chips ... 1 for 93/94 octane and the other for 110/112


greg</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is that possible with hodata? to switch back and forth?

 

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Is that possible with hodata? to switch back and forth?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a matter of swapping out the eproms ...

 

bullshit....you can't overshoot 2 points on compression....then change the fuel/ign map...and expect it to be ok. your ecu is not gonna change the fact that the fuel will not ignite properly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TECH43 RACING INC. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bullshit....you can't overshoot 2 points on compression....then change the fuel/ign map...and expect it to be ok. your ecu is not gonna change the fact that the fuel will not ignite properly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

can you explain.....