Well im familiar with both but not as much with turbo. so your opinions can help.

 

force induction forum?

 

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I would go with the S/C because they have proven to be reliable and there is a lot more information out there about them. I've only seen a few turbo kits and most of those are custom jobs. Check out S2KI.com and look at what people have said about the Comptech and Vortech superchargers. Beware of rearend problems though...if you drop the clutch at too high a RPM with the S/C you can tear your car a new one in the rearend.

 

The turbo has the potential to make a lot more power.

 

yeah, but most of the turbo dyno charts I've seen are pushing the same numbers as S/C and they cost more. I think ultimate racings turbo kit is like 5K+ and it puts out around 300 whp.

 

I'd go with the superchargers because you'll have a better chance of not blowing your engine with turbos.

 

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HA! I'd love to hear your theory on this

 

For equal time spent on maintainance superchargers are more reliable period. Turbos CAN be reliable but require MUCH more $$ and tuning. If you plan on continueously tuning your car and forking out $$ here and there but want more torque down low and potential for more boost, go with turbo. Although you can change pullys for more boost on supercharger for almost no tuning and reliability at low cost go with superchargers. That is my opinion i'm very sure others will differ.


-David

 

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Reminds me of when I call Sprint PCS and they transfer me about 8 times trying to get me to the "right group" when the first person could have just answered my question

Anyway, I agree with whats been said above. Superchargers have a tendency to be more reliable. I've heard that many Honda dealers will maintain your warranty if you have a comptech supercharger kit that was installed by a certified dealer. Personally I think that a turbo would be better, but with the s2k supercharger kits being so cheap, easy to install, and easy to tune, it's much much more tempting than a turbo. Also, any additional gains than what you could get from a comptech supercharger, you're need a better clutch and rearend to handle it, and that's far from cheap.

 

Very true....the clutch replacement may not be too bad, but a new rearend would be major $$$$

 

You might want to check http://www.s2ki.com for a recent post in forsale section for cryo treated re-enforced comptech rear end.

 

Go for a root super charger they are very relieble and will give you a tone of power in the lower rpm range. Now if you need peak power like a turbo would give you need a centrifugal charger .all have pro's and con's

 

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what all does that replace? the entire rearend axles and all? or just the gears?

 

I'm sorry I should have been more specific. It is a cryo treated reinforced differential housing. It was developed to help retain the differential and ring gear from getting shoved out the back cover. It uses Billet steel reinforcement w/ extra strength studs all ontop of a modified factory housing.

-David

 

ahh thanks

 

normal aspiration.

 

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Reminds me of when I call Sprint PCS and they transfer me about 8 times trying to get me to the "right group" when the first person could have just answered my question
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This topic has been revisited for some many times, I don't see a reason not to use the search function.

 

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its not about the #'s, its about powerband too.

 

you want more power...go turbo

 

NOS

 

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Yeah the supercharger helps down low more so than a turbo...unless you install a sequential turbo setup. It spools faster. I know this depends on your setup which there are so many options on.

 

Roots superchargers make more torque down low while centrifugal superchargers make a more power as the RPMs increase but unfortunatley popular kits like comptech or vortech use only centrifugal kits and by the dyno charts turbo kits are making more torque at lower RPM vs. supercharger kits. If someone can elaborate on why they use only centrifugal superchargers I would like to hear it.

- David


Modified by hybrids2k at 3:38 PM 6/25/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrids2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For equal time spent on maintainance superchargers are more reliable period. Turbos CAN be reliable but require MUCH more $$ and tuning. If you plan on continueously tuning your car and forking out $$ here and there but want more torque down low and potential for more boost, go with turbo. Although you can change pullys for more boost on supercharger for almost no tuning and reliability at low cost go with superchargers. That is my opinion i'm very sure others will differ.


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Boy are you wrong.

I want to know why you think Superchargers are so much more reliable?

And also this bit about continueously tuning a turbo motor over a supercharged motor? Come on.

You think the comptech little fpr makes a perfect tune? its just like the vortech fmu that was supplied w/ drag 3 and revhard kits. it works but its not dead on.


With every boosted car, you still have to tune the fuel map, and the ignition map. If you run 7 psi on a car w/ a turbo, and run 7 psi w/ a SC, you still have the same number of fuel cells, and ignition cells (on a standalone). So you cant tell me it takes so much more $$$ to tune and continuesouly have to tune a turbo car, its the same damn thing.


P.S. The only maintence i ever did was change the oil more often on my turbo'd vehicle

 

Am I wrong?

Superchargers are PROVEN to be have less maintainance requirements than turbocharged S2000's period. People have already driven supercharged S2000's 10's of thousands of miles and maybe a handful of turbo s2000 owners have been past 10,000 miles on a stock bottom end. Along with all the gauges and more precise tuning of a turbo car it will come out to alot more $$ than a supercharged car.

Why is it that more people go to super chargers rather than turbo chargers for reliability if you say they are the they both 100% equal as far as reliability and money goes?

So you never had any tuning done to you turboed S? I know with a supercharger you can run it w/ exactly what comes with kits like vortech or comptech and it will work fine, you CAN always tune it more and change pully's but it is not NECESSARY. With a turbo kit you NEED to tune it or you car will blow ALOT faster than a car with a supercharger.

Please tell me i'm wrong.... But it must be nice to have a turbo S w/ no maintainance and only oil changes on a stock bottom end.....


Modified by hybrids2k at 7:35 PM 6/25/2003

 

I think he is right if he's only referring to the S2000. My reasoning behind this is that there is not turbo kit that has been as widely used as the Comptech or Vortech superchargers. Therefore they (S/C's) have evolved and are for the most part more reliable and less of a hassle. The dealer will even warranty a car with a comptech supercharger so that says a lot for their reliability.