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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 07:03 PM
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Default Motol DOT 5.1 Brake Fluid ?

All my Suzuki dealer had was this 5.1 Motol, and she (i know) indicated that they didn't make 600 any more?

is this 5.1 better than my stock stuff? Dry boiling is 509 and Wet boiling is 365

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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Motol DOT 5.1 Brake Fluid ? (Scot)

They still make the 600 I just got 2 cases in Today, in the white and red bottles
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Old Jul 17, 2001 | 09:03 PM
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All my Suzuki dealer had was this 5.1 Motol, and she (i know) indicated that they didn't make 600 any more?

is this 5.1 better than my stock stuff? Dry boiling is 509 and Wet boiling is 365
Amazing that salespeople will lie just to sell what they have in stock. Okay, maybe not that amazing.

Q: How can you tell when a salesperson is lying to you?
A: Whenever you can see his lips move.

Motul 600 is now called Motul RBF 600, and they still make it. Still great stuff, with a dry boiling point of 312°c / 593°F and a wet boiling point of 216°c / 420°F.

You'll notice that the boiling points on Motul RBF 600 are higher (better) than that of Motul 5.1. RBF 600 meets all the requirements (including boiling points) of a DOT 5.1 brake fluid except for viscosity at 40 degrees below zero (F or C). So unless you're living in Alaska, get the RBF 600, and don't settle for Motul 5.1.
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Old Jul 18, 2001 | 12:24 AM
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if you use the silcone (5.1) make sure you flush and I mean flush your lines pretty good. silcone wont mix with standard fluid (4 and below). For me, I always manage to boil over the fluid somehow, no matter what fluid I use.
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Old Jul 18, 2001 | 02:19 AM
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if you use the silcone (5.1) make sure you flush and I mean flush your lines pretty good.
Wrong. DOT 5.1 is non-silicone-based brake fluid. There is no silicone in DOT 5.1 brake fluid. DOT 5.1 brake fluid can be mixed with DOT 3 and DOT 4 brake fluid without any problems.

You are thinking of DOT 5 fluid, which is silicone-based brake fluid. You have to do a complete flush for DOT 5 fluid. Not for DOT 5 fluid.

Of course, when you start using a higher-temperature brake fluid like Motul RBF 600, you'll want to flush the system so that you get all the benefits, rather than just using it to top off the system. But there's no problem mixing Motul RBF 600 or Motul 5.1 with other DOT 3 and DOT 4 brake fluids.

BTW, if anyone is interested in reading the entire DOT standards for brake fluid, click here and click on Standard No. 116: Motor vehicle brake fluids.



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Old Jul 18, 2001 | 09:55 AM
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You are thinking of DOT 5 fluid, which is silicone-based brake fluid. You have to do a complete flush for DOT 5 fluid. Not for DOT 5 fluid.
umm, I think you're confused.
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Old Jul 18, 2001 | 11:19 AM
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I agree! DOT 5.1 is non-silicone-based brake fluid! It's what I have right now in the car! Works great!
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