Anyone ever race an BMW M roadster? I have a friend who has one who says even after I put cams in the car he will kill me.

 

How does 0-60 in approx. 5.3 sec. sound? If I remember correctly, you're putting in A's? Although even with B's he might beat you? Those things have 240hp and lots of torque.

 

Yeah, the Torque will kill me 350 to me exact.

 

I went up against one three times. The guy was a good driver too, really launched the car well. He would take me off the line every time, and I could barely gain ground in third. Probably would not have caught him though. Quick little RWD monster.

 

A friend M Roadster ran 13.7 stock at Pomona fairground. In term of handling, I would say that ITR is not too far behind the M Roadster but the straight away is bye bye.

 

He's so right!!! Race him for fun, don't race him thinking you'll win... M Roadsters are pretty fast...

 

M-Roadsters are awesome! I'm pretty sure you'd go down, it would be fun though. Fear the "M"!

For what it's worth, Supra vs M-Roadster: http://www.supraforums.com/cgi-bin/u...c&f=4&t=000365

 

If you're talking about road race not drag race, I can answer you based on my experience.

I got a chance to "race" an M-coupe last year in Road America. nsxtasy was in my car as my instructor. Reason why I said "race" is because it was actually a BMW driving school. The M guy and I were in the same run group so I guess our experience are about the same.

During one of the sessions, he was behind me like ~10 car lengths and could not get any closer. He even got pulled away in the tighter parts of the track. RA is a 4-mile long track with tons of straights, but his 240hp M-coupe could not take any advantage from my relatively stock ITR.

 

Straight line you are dead, they put down a lot of hp and a lot of torque. The only hope that you would have is that the other driver has no idea how to launch the M and just smokes em.

Do it for fun anyway

 

I will do it just for fun

 

Remember, you should give your instructor all of the credit. And take all of the blame yourself.

 

a friend of mine just got his new M coupe.He ran a 13.2@106.Unless you are heavily modded it would be useless to waste your gas..

 

race one a while back...he lead first and second, but I overtook in third....yeah ITR power!!

 

No way you beat the M coupe unless you are pushing 240 @ the wheel.

 

no where nears 240...but beat one anyways.....the BMW roadster is powerful but heavy...the rear wheels pushed it way ahead at the start but the weight got to it and passed by a quarter panel. Not too hard if you know when to shift....even more unbelievable but, I've also overtaken M-Benz V12's as well....heavy cars just don't do well in races...

 

i agree with you on the driver part but at 3100lbs the M roadster is about 800lbs more than my R...I'm at about 2300+lbs

 

My car is JDM...a lot of the safety equipment and ammenities were not added...no ABS...etc...

A corvette also has like a 6.0L V-8

 

I guess I could believe keeping up with an M in third gear or so. it's got a very good HP to weight ratio and an UNBELIVEABle Torque to weight ratio. I don't see how you could pass one, but I can see ultimately keeping up with one.

Just like a Lude I raced last night. He constantly launched better than me(I was soooooo sleepy and was just dumping!) and pulled.....but at the end of every gear it was a catch up and then a pull away.....but it wasn't like he was standing still.

Bottom line, given two similar drivers, the M would pull away. Look at the specs, and the gearing, it's pretty tight.

 

Our M Roadsters have stock 321hp. Why do the US spec. have only 240hp???

 

Credit to the instructor.

That is with the new M3 engine right?


[Modified by Wai, 1:23 PM 7/14/2001]

 

because the USDM version gets stuck with the smaller engine, so does the previous gen M3.

 

[QUOTE....heavy cars just don't do well in races... [/QUOTE]

Hmmm...maybe that explains why a 4000lb M5 does the 1320 in 13.08 (Motor Trend a few months back..)...your argument needs adjusting.

 

3rd is where hp and torque would come into play and you would lose.i would believe from a roll in lower gears we would hang slightly 1-2 that is it.My friend with the new m coupe pulled this time in nearly 100 degree weather.He was cutting 1.90 60 ft's on stock tires.If you thing you can hang with that you are mistaken.i think in cold wether that thinld would break into the 12's stock.

 

For a car with that kind of displacement....13.08 is not a spectacular time....now compare that to a NSX Type S-Zero or even a NSX Type R which are both pretty light weight...NTR (2600+lbs) NTS-Z (2700lbs) both do 1/4's in the 12 sec range....is that a better argument??

 

Miraiz,
When a sedan that weighs 4000lbs does the 1320 in 13 flat, that IS spectacular. Those NSX's are fast cars, but what does that have to do with your point? The new 996TT weighs more than them and is faster as well.