I just wanted to make sure everyone was clear on Honda-Tech's policy as far as postwhoring goes.


Post Whoring:
Post-whoring is defined by Honda-Tech as the following:

- Posts which contain no relevant contribution to the thread, topic, or site
- Posting responses to a thread for the sole purpose of boosting post count
- Posting derogatory and/or 1-word answers to a topic
- Posts/Threads that are meaningless and lack the ability to elicit thought-provocative responses
- Posting a short/simple response which shows you replied to the title and not the topic

Examples of post-whoring as defined by the ToS (But NOT limited to this list):



IBTL
+1
Quoting of a previous response with no elaboration on your part

Post whoring will be subject to 1 or more of the following penalties:
- Loss of points
- Deletion of post
- Loss of post count
- Post limits
- Ban

 

what brought this on?
sorry, i have been away...

 

basically all those Gina threads that never got locked

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what brought this on?
sorry, i have been away...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have had to delete useless posts and dock % far too often recently.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jason bouchard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt say anything about losing your Avatar !!!!! and losing 4 % without warning . . . .</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is a quick way to losing more points and being restricted to 10 posts per day.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jason bouchard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it doesnt say anything about losing your Avatar !!!!! and losing 4 % without warning . . . .</TD></TR></TABLE>

You made a reply to a thread that had nothing to do with the topic at hand, then went on to insult/attack another member.

 

Just a thought.. but there seems to be alot of regional threads that go on often.

You guys ever put thought into creating regional sub-forums? Might help... but its just a suggestion.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakychaos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just a thought.. but there seems to be alot of regional threads that go on often.

You guys ever put thought into creating regional sub-forums? Might help... but its just a suggestion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well there IS an Events/Meets forum, but I was told to allow ITR specific events/meets to stay in this forum.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well there IS an Events/Meets forum, but I was told to allow ITR specific events/meets to stay in this forum.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Awesome, and I thank you for letting my post stick to the ITR forum crowd.

 

i think those goddamn socal ppl have a problem with postwhoring

 

- Posts which contain no relevant contribution to the thread, topic, or site

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jeffrey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think those goddamn socal ppl have a problem with postwhoring</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I don't think anyone will disagree with George's two posts in this thread. Well said.

I do notice that several of the mods in this forum I NEVER see here, some very very rarely, only two I see all the time. In fact, I didn't even know some were mods here until I checked the 'Forum Stats' on here. Not a bad thing, just an observation.

This isn't a complaint about them in any way (the mods), but the forum has been un-moderated for hours at a time sometimes lately, running wild with flames, rants, :fire:, and ridiculous threads that never end. Understandable why Reid would post this now, when things have been on the decline.

 

sorry for the Gina threads Reid but they were certainly entertaining while they lasted

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If anything, we need to get rid of some of the more immature ones, board-wide, and establish a firm foundation for ethical behaviour.
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awww **** now i'll never become a mod lol

.RJ: That guy posted a commet about SoCal postwhores in a thread about Postwhores so would that not be relevant to this thread?

Also, a Question. Let's say someone posts a correct answer and after that others post the incorrect answer, is it bad to post quoting the correct answer to reinforce it? Is there a need to actually type out the entire correct answer again?

I'm asking because I do that occasionally soooo...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RealTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry for the Gina threads Reid but they were certainly entertaining while they lasted </TD></TR></TABLE>

If a moderator wanted them locked badly enough, it would have been done. They were OT, however, they involved members of the ITR forum so I honestly don't have a problem with such threads (not that it matters).

 

I don't think that the problem lies w/ the moderation staff. This problem is brought up about every other month. The board is presented w/ a problem, members respond to it, and it seems to go smoothly for a while and then it starts back up again.

There really isn't much we can do as moderators besides lock posts and deal w/ people bitching about it. If we take points off, people run to other mods/admins and get the points back anyway, or they open a new account to postwhore w/. It's a never ending process that I've seen waaaay to many times.

As far as the ITR mods are concerned, there definitely is plenty. There ARE going to be times where there isn't a mod logged on, I don't care how many you have. Some do spend more time on here than others. I don't post much, but that doesn't mean that I"m not locking/moving/reading threads. Some of the new features that have been implemented on this website make it easier to get in touch w/ a mod (such as showing Online status, and the report post to moderator links) and have worked quite well.

For everyone to sit here and bitch is not going to help anything...most people here are part of the problem at one point in time or another, and no one is going to be perfect. Everyone likes to mess around once in a while, but it's the people who constantly screw around that are going to ruin it for everyone else. We've had times when whole forums are closed down and it may happen again. Everyone needs to help out w/ this, it's not something that just the mods can prevent or have a solution to.

 

+kumkwat

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Have you considered that we seem to have one or two moderators who appear to be part of the problem, instead a part of the solution?

Convention prohibits your taking action, but occasionally they engage in a tirade that the normal membership would be helpless to respond to in view of the TOS.

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I have to agree with this one. I have no problem with making sure that everybody abides by the rules (as Reid is helplessly trying to do), but when mods brake the "rules" since they can , it is not only hypocritical but an incentive for others to follow suit. I think everyone is aware of the monkey-see-monkey-do, "if he doesn't follow the rules then why should I" attitide. If the rules apply to everybody equally, they are much more likely to be followed universally. Furthermore, there will be less questions about why one loses points or has their thread locked.

 

Jason: As pointed out above, it is partially the fault of some mods. Not for the reasons you talked about though.

And I don't mean any offense to you or any other mod, but shouldn't a moderator of a forum be active in posting as well? instead of just "policing" it? (oh man, Since you are a police officer you probably WILL take offense now, oh well)

 

Dave...I do post occasionally, when my input is able to help someone out. But being that I don't have anything new w/ an R of my own, I don't feel the need to post anything unless it's for someone else's benefit. I don't have any particular questions now that I need answered, where as I had a lot before when I was purchasing/working on my car...that's the reason for my decline in posting, but not time spent on Honda Tech. BTW, no offense taken

As far as actions that people/mods have taken, I can't speak for them...they have their own thought process and we all are going to have a different view on things. However, I do feel that w/ so many different personalities on a forum like this, it is very hard to keep it running to make everyone happy. i.e. I don't mind as much w/ some of the OT stuff, where others it really pisses people off. I think a forum of people that you get to know have other things that they like to share, etc where it may not get to the intended people in a forum suchs a general discussion. BUT, that's how some members like it and some hate it...you will always have issues w/ that.


George..I didn't mean Reid bitching, that was said as a generaliztion of the entire membership of HT. You've been here quite a bit of time and know that this comes up all the time. You are always one of the proponents on keeping everything R related and agree w/ the splits of the forums. But I have yet to see anyone offer any type of possible solution to make people happier here.

I understand Reid's points, as he's probably the most active moderator in the R forum as of late. I'm sure it does feel like all of his (and others) work is all for naught, but that's part of the responsiblity of a mod. You do what you can and hope that people don't hate you for trying to keep the forum at a respectable level and pace.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">- Posts which contain no relevant contribution to the thread, topic, or site

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sorry, mod. I was just messing around. I"m a socal guy myself, and I'm really proud to say that a lot of the postwhoring has been cleaned up from the past. It has gotten a lot better than it once used to be, so that's all I have to contribute for my region. But yes, I think that the mods are doing a good job here on gradually cleaning things up.

 

I've been noticing a lot of trolls/personal attacks on many threads lately without any deletions/repercussions. Docking users and deleting posts will be a most welcome change.

Just because what someone does with their car that you don't approve of shouldn't result in that thread being burnt to the ground. For reference, see almost any drag racing thread, or anything related to going to any kind of car show. This is the 'Integra Type-R forum', not the 'Integra Type-R forum for bandwagon roadracers only.'

If that changed, this would return to be one of my favorite forums, instead of just one that I check when I'm bored.

 

I have volunteered numerous times, but it just ain't gonna happen.

I think I have made myself perfectly clear on who does a good job, and who does not. I also think we are all pretty much in agreement on that matter.

If you, as a moderator, do things that you would not allow regular members to do, it is time to either A) step down; or B) modify your conduct.

Since it is beyond all hope that certain individuals will choose either A or B, I think the higher-ups need to step in. But hey, what do I know?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dawhiteboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, a Question. Let's say someone posts a correct answer and after that others post the incorrect answer, is it bad to post quoting the correct answer to reinforce it? Is there a need to actually type out the entire correct answer again?

I'm asking because I do that occasionally soooo...</TD></TR></TABLE>

When there is a question that is asked and someone gives an answer that is correct and much like the one you typed, I think it is fine to simply quote that person with a .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by io_burn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just because what someone does with their car that you don't approve of shouldn't result in that thread being burnt to the ground.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Furthermore, personal vendettas should not dictate the quality of your posts on this board.

Anyone who attacks another member will lose 4% for each attack.

If someone attacks you, just contact me and I'll talk to that member. Please do not stoop so low as to continue to argue.