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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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[img ]http://www.imagestation.com/my...82845[/ img]

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4321 compression: 225,220,60,30

sprayin, i got a cel, then a backfire/pop, it was pretty loud, pull the plugs and there you have it.

im expecting the worst as i think about pulling the head tomarrow...what do ya'll think?
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 05:51 AM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (fastludeh22)

You were spraying? Plugs just don't melt like that. What was your setup?
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 05:54 AM
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plate, 80 shot. 22 n20 16 fuel. msd digi 6 timing retard at 3 degrees.

first spray, bogged for a sec then went like hell, then started to bog again

next spray, it kinda of bogged, the sputtered, then bang


when i checked cel it said 10 and 15...there is no 15!

its p72 w/hondata
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 06:20 AM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (fastludeh22)

When the Hondata was tuned did the tuner advance the ignition timing?
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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Why do you have a turtle on your dash??
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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Why are you having your MSD retard timing if you've got a hondata?

Yeah, those plugs don't look good at all.....let us know how it turns out.....
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (fastludeh22)

I dont wanna be the one telling you, but you're in for a rebuild. Looks like you cracked/broke a ringland. Looking from the spark plugs, also looks like you had major detonation.

start saving up
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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I'd also reccomend replacing your airbag, or at least cutting it off...

*shameless plug = I have a momo tornado (black/Carbon fiber) for sale* =D
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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minute maid apple juice.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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whoa dude u gotta lay of the NOS
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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oh yeah.... i forgot.
next time, try to focus the camera on the actual plug.... not the juice.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeLove &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whoa dude u gotta lay of the NOS</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya that NAWS can sure mess stuff up
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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detionation... gotta love it... do a comp test b4 u pull the head.. my friend did that but his actually was ok. maybe his was just to much heat...maybe but i doubt it
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedH23a1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">detionation... gotta love it... do a comp test b4 u pull the head.. my friend did that but his actually was ok. maybe his was just to much heat...maybe but i doubt it</TD></TR></TABLE>

He already did one....

225,220,60,30
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4bidden &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

He already did one....

225,220,60,30</TD></TR></TABLE>oh my damn! lol, thats great stuff
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (Elkins911)

hahaha...MMmMmmMMmm...Juice
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (fastludeh22)

seen worse........ this kid (customer) bought these giant crower custom cams for his b16 hatch....... stock head......... we put them in like he asked..... he drove down the street..... we heard him punch it..... at around 9700 rpm **** went boooom...... sent pieces of the piston into the head pieces of the valve everywhere, and the spark plus was down to the white, the threads weren;t even there...... but hey..... that one looks like it is gonna set u back a block too
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (93turbolude)

well here's the thing, when i first did it, i didnt realize how bad it was, and drove it over a mile home, LIKE THAT. nothing was knocking, or anything, just ran like **** from the loss of compression.

i was using the msd to retard the timing only when spraying. the hondata ign maps weren't tuned yet, he only did the a/f so i could break in the engine. we looked at them though, he said they were a little aggressive, but nothing crazy. i was going back in 2 weeks when the turbo was on there.

well i was thinking the ringland or something, guess well see how strong endyne rollerwaves, and badger sleeves really are.

well im off to pull the head in the cold and dark, cause i just got dont working 13 hours, and iu have to work 10 more tomarrow.

btw-doenst 225 psi seem kind of high for 9.5:1 pistons.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (fastludeh22)

damn dude?? you sure you had everything hooked up right? and if your on nitrous and it bogs really bad, that should be your first clue to stop, and you did it again, then drove it home?? sorry but didnt make much sense..your pistons in those cylinders are toast, thats alot of material gone....and you said you were braking the engine in? and your squeezing on it??im lost here
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (PreludeRacer023)

it bogged, but not crazy, it was more like it was still to rich. i broke in the engine, it has 2200 miles.

and ya i drove it home, it had a loss in power, but it didnt make any bad noises or anything well i drove it so...

we'll see tomarrow.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (fastludeh22)

Yeah, bogging is usual with nitrous kits, especially if you are untuned or have low bottle pressure.
If you can please find out how much the timing was advanced.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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Default Re: holy **** check this out (fastludeh22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastludeh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
when i checked cel it said 10 and 15...there is no 15!

its p72 w/hondata</TD></TR></TABLE>

cel 15 is ignition output sensor.
cel 10 isidle air temp sensor.

this goes for both the p72 and the p13.
sorry for your engine man. sucks.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Damn, it was a built motor too? Something isn't right here, an 80 shot shouldn't have killed it like that.........
Brian
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastludeh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well i was thinking the ringland or something, guess well see how strong endyne rollerwaves, and badger sleeves really are.

btw-doenst 225 psi seem kind of high for 9.5:1 pistons. </TD></TR></TABLE>


F*** YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess they are a lot stronger then we all thought, including myself!

its only a head gasket!

[ img ] http://www.imagestation.com/my...55147 [/img ]

[ img] http://www.imagestation.com/my...55142 [/img ]

ill get better pics later if wanted, im late for work.

no more jucie for me, till i get it all tuned.

btw- my turbo manni came today so it'll all be too sweet in about a week.!
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Phew! Good to hear it was just the headgasket......
Nitrous is a pesky bugger on the 4bangers.....
Brian
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