Dyno Graph of Grandpa's SMSP ITR
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Well Steve already showed you this graph today. But here's a little background. I wanted to put together a vehicle for the Expo to showcase some of my products. George Knighton had already decided to go with my header since he was already running my cat back, so this made for a perfect fit. Due to some tooling problems with one of the shops that does custom bending for me I wasn't able to have a display cat back system for Expo, or a true bolt on system installed on George's car. So I built George's new light weight system the old way, out of individual mandrel bends.
Here are the mods
Block: Stock B18C5 with 70k miles
Cylinder Head Gasket: Stock
Cylinder Head: Valve Job and Porting performed by DFE (Not sure what "Stage" they would classify it as). Thanks Don
Cams: Stock
Cam Gears: Skunk2 (I love the 6 bolts)
to the Skunk2 guys on these
Intake: DFE again but only work done in the runners
Intake Manifold Gasket: Hondata Race
Injectors: Stock ITR 240cc but with the RC Engineering touch
CAI: Custom SMSP with smooth taper to match TB ID
Air Filter: K&N
ECU: Hondata S100, thanks to Matt for the help you provided during the expo.
Tuning: SGT, thanks so much for all the help on this project Steve. We wouldn't had anything to drive if you didn't work on the car the weekend before Expo while I was at a wedding.
Header: SMSP w/ aftermarket cam "option"
Cat: Carsound/SMSP 93506
Cat Back: Custom 2-1/2" SMSP w/ (2) light weight resonators and (1) rear muffler
While it would have been nice to see the peak hp numbers a little higher we couldn't do it without hurting the mid range. So we gave up a couple up top after 8k and picked up a lot more in the mid range.
I was also going to try my new prototype secondaries that netted 2-3 whp (over my standard ITR header) on an untuned stock ITR last fall but really just didn't have the will to switch them out today since I've been battling a low grade pneumonia since I got back from the Expo.
Here's another graph of the above curve compared to a dyno of George's car with stock exhaust manifold, cat, cat back, ECU and CompTech CAI done last year.
Oh, by the way, VTEC is set at 3500. A couple of you were close.
Modified by SMSP at 6:42 PM 3/24/2004
Here are the mods
Block: Stock B18C5 with 70k miles
Cylinder Head Gasket: Stock
Cylinder Head: Valve Job and Porting performed by DFE (Not sure what "Stage" they would classify it as). Thanks Don
Cams: Stock
Cam Gears: Skunk2 (I love the 6 bolts)
to the Skunk2 guys on theseIntake: DFE again but only work done in the runners
Intake Manifold Gasket: Hondata Race
Injectors: Stock ITR 240cc but with the RC Engineering touch
CAI: Custom SMSP with smooth taper to match TB ID
Air Filter: K&N
ECU: Hondata S100, thanks to Matt for the help you provided during the expo.
Tuning: SGT, thanks so much for all the help on this project Steve. We wouldn't had anything to drive if you didn't work on the car the weekend before Expo while I was at a wedding.
Header: SMSP w/ aftermarket cam "option"
Cat: Carsound/SMSP 93506
Cat Back: Custom 2-1/2" SMSP w/ (2) light weight resonators and (1) rear muffler
While it would have been nice to see the peak hp numbers a little higher we couldn't do it without hurting the mid range. So we gave up a couple up top after 8k and picked up a lot more in the mid range.
I was also going to try my new prototype secondaries that netted 2-3 whp (over my standard ITR header) on an untuned stock ITR last fall but really just didn't have the will to switch them out today since I've been battling a low grade pneumonia since I got back from the Expo.
Here's another graph of the above curve compared to a dyno of George's car with stock exhaust manifold, cat, cat back, ECU and CompTech CAI done last year.
Oh, by the way, VTEC is set at 3500. A couple of you were close.
Modified by SMSP at 6:42 PM 3/24/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BryanSprinkel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Awesome work Dave, & Steve..
I cant wait to get the car back, hint hint...
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Yeah maybe you can give me a ride next time?
I cant wait to get the car back, hint hint...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah maybe you can give me a ride next time?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thank you very much for all the time you spent on it. Definitely beyond the call and certainly well appreciated.
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Yes, thank you very much!
Thank you very much for all the time you spent on it. Definitely beyond the call and certainly well appreciated.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, thank you very much!
it would be neat to see austins dyno layed over that.
austin made 197ish whp with out power steering, he also has ti retainers, comptech icebox, mugen head gasket and test pipe
otherwise similar with other mods
be curious to see area under curve to compare hytech
austin made 197ish whp with out power steering, he also has ti retainers, comptech icebox, mugen head gasket and test pipe
otherwise similar with other mods
be curious to see area under curve to compare hytech
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by io_burn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure which I like more, the SMSP exhaust or the SGT tuning
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The Combo seems to be perfect!
Great numbers George! Now let Steve take that thing down the strip once with some slicks!
</TD></TR></TABLE>The Combo seems to be perfect!
Great numbers George! Now let Steve take that thing down the strip once with some slicks!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was also going to try my new prototype secondaries that netted 2-3 whp (over my standard ITR header) on an untuned stock ITR last fall</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any pics? Or would you have to kill me after I looked at them?
Any pics? Or would you have to kill me after I looked at them?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks good, can't wait to bolt on my SMS Header.
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Same here, Tuesday night is the special night
, im still waiting for some other things to get here, so i can hit the dyno.
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Same here, Tuesday night is the special night
, im still waiting for some other things to get here, so i can hit the dyno.
Looks like a great power increase right through the rev range. Certainly makes me think twice about considering aftermarket cams..
Mid range power
Mid range power



