F*** Honda Syncros to Hell!!!

This is my 2nd time a syncro has gone out on me!
1) 97' ex 3rd gear
2) cx w/ b18c1 (factory lsd) 3rd gear

How much to rebuild?
Why the F*** does it keep happening?
Who else has this happend too?

Sorry about the rant... To many tonight!

 

syncro's are a brass and or bronze alloy and they are soft. it isnt just honda's. every manufacturer has these problems. have any friends with mustangs or older camaro's? ask them about borg and warner's T5.

 

3rd gear is always the first to go then its 2nd gear.

steve

 

My buddies lsd tranny's 3rd gear is saying goodbye too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 10seconds &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3rd gear is always the first to go then its 2nd gear.

steve</TD></TR></TABLE>


Why is it always 3rd 1st?

 

My 3rd gear grinds, why is it that 3rd always goes first?

 

i am wondering how fixable synchros are, are they swap out the olds and swap in news, or is it new tranny time??

 

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here is what i here...you just change SYNCRO then it is going to happen again....i dont knwo for sure whenever this problem starts to occur i start lookign for a new tranny.

steve

 

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here is what i here...you just change SYNCRO then it is going to happen again....i dont knwo for sure whenever this problem starts to occur i start lookign for a new tranny.

steve</TD></TR></TABLE>

They don't sell a tranny much better then mine! (LSD and a short final drive) Why is it going to happen again if I fix it? Why would I buy a new tranny for $1000 if it could happen to that one!

This is such Bull S***! I wish crap like this would not happen!

How Much Is It To Fix?

 

bump. somone give us some DIY info because im intimidated by this too.

 

It depends on how much you can do yourself..Normally one replaces both the syncro and the gear..Here the hardware costs arounbd 300$ ,but the difficult part is to put it in..And assemble the tranny properly..
My local Honda shop told me it'll take 1.5 day to disassemble and reassemble and repair my tranny..And I also have a defective 3rd gear.. But I have to wait a bit 'cause I'm too low on $$ at the moment + a friend of mine going to help me fix it or else I'll never be able to afford it ...Syncros

 

trans's arent that intimidating. a helms will help. it is a big take apart then install in reverse order. 3rd always goes first because, think about. what gear do you miss the most? second. if it doesnt go in it cant grind. 3rd always goes in because you are pushing it with all your might. thats why.

 

My 2nd and 3rd are on their way out....

 

i got the same problem...about 1 year ago my 5th gear grinded...no problem took it to the dealer got it fixed...now 5th is grinding again at low rpms and 2-4 are grinding at 6k shifts or higher

 

third gear grinds on my tranny 161K miles...so its done ok..its liveable...but now..after i installed my new clutch..i hit second gear and it broke..so i have no secnod gear at all...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CiRcUiTsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got the same problem...about 1 year ago my 5th gear grinded...no problem took it to the dealer got it fixed...now 5th is grinding again at low rpms and 2-4 are grinding at 6k shifts or higher</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dam, you need to thorw that si back at the dealorships face where you bought it.

 

so if u replace synchros and the gear, lets say how long do u have until it wears out again normal driving with bein a lil hard on it every now and then, like when u replace it im guessing it wont be as good as new.....or close for that matter since people say it always starts grinding again

 

I have had the same problem in my del sol and in my hatch the third goes out then second! dam I hate that is there any after market parts that are stronger then the factory?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igotyofire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if u replace synchros and the gear, lets say how long do u have until it wears out again normal driving with bein a lil hard on it every now and then, like when u replace it im guessing it wont be as good as new.....or close for that matter since people say it always starts grinding again</TD></TR></TABLE>

it most likely starts grinding again cause people beat on it even harder after its fixed.. people are like 'ooo, my tranny is like new now, i can beat on it harder than evar!!!'

im sure if you changed your driving habits after you realized you fucked your transmission, then i'd last long

 

Yes these little things cause so much trouble.

 

So when the syncro is going, do the gears grind when going in? I get that sometimes, damn.

 

nothing alittle shift practice changing your MT fulid every 15K and learning how to heal toe down shift cant prevent

 

i just talked a friend of mine about this who is certified in manuel transmissions, he says not pressing all the way down on the clutch will for the synchros to work harder and shortining there life span, as i usually tap the clutch when i shift, he also says a clutch that does not work properly, im guessing slipping can also cuase the synchros to work harder....any truth to this?

 

dam you guys have problems with 3rd? I've always had the problem with 2nd going bad. the mechanic I talked to told me it's going to cost me roughly $1000 to rebuild it or just buy another tranny for $600 installation included from him so I just got another tranny and save the hassle and money. just my .02

 

just can't understand why you guys' tranny gone so easily. i road race for more than 3 years and never have synchro problem.