neo1z

Mods:
.Skunk2 Stage 1 Cams
.Skunk2 Valve Springs
.Skunk2 Valve Retainers
.Skunk2 Cam Gears
.Skunk2 Intake Manifold
.ITR Throttle Body
.AEM CAI
.Comptech 4-2-1 Header
.Test Pipe
.DC Sports Exhaust
.Bosch Platinum +4 Spark Plugs
.Kenji P28 ECU (OBD-1 conversion)
.Earthing Kit
.Hondata P72 Intake Manifold Gasket
.Apex'i VAFC
.Moojin 1.3bar Radiator Cap

Settings:
.Igntion Timing = 17 degrees BTDC
.Cam Timing = (0,0)
.no adj FPR
.VTEC X-over = 5300rpm
.VAFC fuel adj = too complex to list

Blue = baseline
Red = Highest horsepower (16:1 AFR *YIKES!*)
Green = Highest torque (current settings above)


IN VTEC

Mods:
.P73-00 ITR Pistons
.CTR Cams
.Skunk2 Cam Gears (jacked up ones with 7 marks)
.ITR Valve Springs
.ITR Intake Valves
.Hondata P72 Intake Manifold
.NGK PFR6G-13 Spark Plugs
.Apex'i VAFC
.ACL Bearings
.ARP Head Studs
.RC Engineering BnB OEM 240cc Injectors
.DC Sports JDM 4-1 Header (Ceramic)
.Carsound Cat 94066
.ITR B-pipe
.Top Speed Twin Loop Exhaust
.Toda 9lb Flywheel
.ACT HD-SS Clutch/PP

Compression test 1k miles after the rebuild: 260, 260, 260, 260

Compression test just before the dyno (~3500miles): 250, 255, 250, 250 (1-4)

Settings:
.Igntion Timing = 14 degrees BTDC (oops...forgot)
.Cam Timing = (+2,-2)
.Fuel Pressure = 63psi
.VTEC X-over = 4900rpm
.VAFC fuel adj = too complex to list (all over the frikkin' place)



More tuning notes to come...like how to hit 200whp on Robbie's car. *wink* *wink*


[Modified by IN VTEC, 12:20 AM 3/30/2003]

 

Hey Ben, I dont know if you heard, but Robbie threw down 582 to the wheels! I about crapped myself.

 

Yeah....I tuned Robbie's car last so we were there the entire day.

 

NICE!

I can't wait to tune my car.

 

Nice job. Didnt know you went back after I left. I didnt wanna leave, but I had other crap I had to do.

 

neo1z can hit 200wHP with some Pistons, Hondata, JDM 4-1 Header with a 2.5" inch cat.

200wHP is within his grasp!!!

I need a damn ECU!

 

F*#@ pistons. I'll hit 200whp w/ just a FPR, 310cc injectors, and some play on the cam settings. Well, maybe.

I think his Kenji P28 ECU saved me a lot of tuning trouble that I had with mine, not to mention never having dyno tuned before in my life.

I tuned my car first and was nervous so I really wasn't thinking straight. It really shows in the numbers. I really started figuring things out on Robbie's car tho.

EDIT: Just for comparison, another ITR with JUN III cams and 12.8 CR dyno'd 190whp.


[Modified by IN VTEC, 12:18 AM 3/30/2003]

 

Nice! Wish I hadn't had a prior engagment to go to.

 

what are some projected qtr mile times with these individual setups (at least based on whp/wtq)?

 

i'm really impressed, especially with neo1z's #'s....

a friend with the same setup but with these different mods:
-obd2
-jdm itr 4-1 header
-mugen TL

only hit a max of 180whp. it seems to me like the obd2-obd1 conversion is what really opened it up... and that makes sense because dyno plots of stock GSRs from obd1 to obd2 shows a 5-10whp loss. obd2

do you guys think that the obd1 ecu is what made some serious power? what program is being run from kenji? and why would you run a programmed p28 and then use the vafc to reprogram it - to fine tune a/f?

 

Kenji's P28 program already runs really rich. Just look at the blue AFR line.

 

Thas what I'm sayin. ****** OBD2!!!

I'll be Dyno Tuning my car sooner or later, and I'll post on up what I pull. I'll be running stock Cat. Stock ECU, and Stock Valvetrain tho.

 

Yea guys --- It was an awesome weekend. Ben and I really think we can get my ride up to 200 whp after we put on my B&M FPR, and do some cam gear tuning. Ill probably get some RC 310cc injectors -- then, according to my tuning god Ben, I'll be guranteed 200's
Im pumped.

I barely had that manifold working when I drove up early saturday morning. I had a fuel leak the whole dyno day --- and was running on old, ugly oil. (Ben can attest to that, we changed it this morning before I came back to Columbus).

But it all ended up working -- made some IU friends, and got some good tuning in. I am going back as soon as humanly possible to see if I cant break 200 PRE-PISTONS!!!!

Wanna give a shout out to Ben -- thanks for your help man -- and the tuning education

 

Also -

Skunk2nr - you need a 1)valvetrain
2) p28

NOW.

 

neo1z: Sweet numbers man, real sweet I have got to get a chip for my car damn it.

 

Glad j00 got back to home ok.

Time to unload that 50 pack of mountain dew and go rip on your car for a little while.

And, you should probably take a last look for fuel leaks. Hopefully it didn't stick up your trip home.

 

Yea man -- home safe and sound. Didnt run into any problems. No fuel, but it smells like I am burning a bit of oil. Oh well...ill take it.

I have to check out those pulleys however...

 

Did you ever find out where the leak was coming from??

Also, are those numbers SAE corrected? And what kind of dyno were you guys using?

 

Hey Scott --- the leak was coming from the hose that connected to the regulator -- we put a new clamp on it today and it worked like a charm

Yes they are indeed SAE corrected -- the uncorrected numbers got up to 193 whp (due to the cold weather) -- it was a big teaser

Thanks so much for your help btw on friday

 

Very nice numbers for a stock bottom end! congrats!

 

Thanks man -- Ben and I really are shooting for 200+ whp with some injectors....that would be awesome.

 

Glad you got that mani done for good now. Those numbers are awesome for the mods! No prob with the help, if you need some more just give me a holler. Oh, and I still would like a ride when you get a chance.

 

Next time I come home -- I'm giving you a call.

Anyone know a decent place to get a Walbro 255lph fuel pump and rc 310 injectors?

 

Damn those are some nice numbers. I'm impressed. Hit up lightningmotorsports.com for the fuel pump.

 

Thanks man -- we'll see if we cant bump those numbers up too a bit
Ill try Lightning Motorsports --- thanks so much!

Ben -- Did you realize that you spelled Mugen, Moojin...or was that a "joke". Loser Hey man, waffle house was awesome today.


[Modified by neo1z, 10:43 PM 3/30/2003]