i would like to lower the car a bit, about 1 to 1/2 inches.
thanks in advance!

 

The general consensus around here is that there is no such thing as a lowering spring for the Type R... If you change just the springs, you might get the lowered look that you like, but this will adversely affect the handling. I would recommend that you save up for a suspension (~$1,500), that way you will actually be making an improvement to your car .

 

I know that changing the spring will probably make handling not as good as stock but I am going to be purchasing some 17 inches te73 and don't want that nasty gap in between the wheel and fender. Yeah...I would love to get a nice suspension system, but I don't intend to autox this car. For those who have change your stock R spring to aftermarket spring, what do you recommand?

 

The Type R could be lower, but the Realtime Racing and DC Sports racing ITRs aren't lowered significantly from stock because of losing useful suspension travel. With 17" TE-37s, you won't really have much of a gap, and you will have to run a really low profile tire. A 205/40, 215/40, or even a 225/35 will fit at stock ride height without rubbing, I believe. Brand wise, Eibach is probably the best available, if they make a Sportline spring for the ITR. Check out http://www.ground-control.com, they sell spec made lowering springs as well as complete suspensions, with the coils made by Eibach.

 

i'm using spoon spring

lowered 20mm (but seems lower than that)

 

I will either get:

1)Kg/mm DR Racing springs:
Lower: -35mm front & -30mm rear
Spring rates: 8.2kg/mm front & 6.4kg/mm rear

2)Kg/mm DR21 Supersport:
Lower: -30mm front & -25mm rear
Spring rates: 6.4kg/mm front & 4.8kg/mm rear

3)TEIN S-TECH medium:
Lower: -26mm front & -30mm rear
Spring rates: 2.4-8kg/mm front & 1-6.9kg/mm rear

Personally I like the Kg/mm more since I used those before and they gave me a pretty good feel with OE shocks. But of coz if u compare that with a set of damper kit or coilovers that's not good at all. But STILL improved.

Pls email me at spoonek4@hotmail.com if u need further info on those springs.

 

I've had good results, and test drove cars with the H&R Integra-R model specific springs. Find a car with H&R 29502's on it and see what you think. You can find them inexpensively, they'll lower just over an inch front and rear, and in my opinion, work very well

 

ITR-01-269 I have the sportlines and I am very displeased with them. My next suspension upgrade is going to be the Mugen lowdown kit. I have excellent reviews about them.

XTCAT8K: I recommend that you get the Mugen Lowdown kit. It's $1500 but well worth it.

 

im using neuspeed race and i like em...

 

wickid_r, same here. heh i got the same springs, and they're coming off this weekend.

 

You are better off waiting until you can afford something like the Mugen Lowdown.

However, if you want a set of springs, I second Spoonek4's choice of Kg/mm DR21 or Tein S-Tech.

Until I switched to Zeal Function S coilovers, I was using H&R Sports with the stock shocks on my Si - not a very good combo IMO.

 

is that also JDM Approved Kengs?

New Avatar i see.

 

It's too tiny; you should see my sig @ Club Si.

Mizuho Kanoh

 

You shouldn't lower with just springs, as they will not be matched to the ITRs stock damping. You should know that the Type R is set up almost perfectly. You need entire coilovers to get good results. There is no advantage to lowering it, or race teams would do it. Lowering springs are for hypocrites who want a "look." Be serious and get a set of Mugen coilovers. Why are you displeased with them?

 

Well the fact that most people responded. "Get Teins or your not cool enough to own an ITR" Really pisses me off. Granted we're not gonna throw the cheapest most readily available parts in our ITR's. But ITR specific H&R sports are the next best thing to a full coil-over set up.

Yes the H&R sports, will reduce wheel gap, reduce body roll and improve the looks. I have H&R sports and a JDM rear sway bar which is going in next week, so I seriously doubt a stock ITR will outhandle my car now, let alone once the sway bar goes in. Just my .02cents.

And if you think a stock ITR isnt a little tail-happy and in need of some lowering springs then you obviously havent pushed your ITR to the limit on a horseshoe on-ramp. Not all ITR owners autocross!!!

 

Hi XTCAT8K I have 17" wheel fitted 205-40 tyres. I still have stock suspension, the gap in between the wheel and fender is not too big, still look quite good, of couse a bit lower will look nice. It will do me for the time being


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Can any of you tell me opinions on what suspension is best for our cars?
I dont autocross much but i do want to improve the handling of the car, I hear good things
about TEIN coilovers & the MUGEN lowdowns. But i also hear the TEIN's get damaged
by the weather. Any input is welcomed.

Thanks

 

Never heard anything bad about Mugen Lowdowns.

TEIN HAs have painted steel bodies; I think the RAs are aluminum. After looking at them all firsthand, I just found the build quality of ZEAL and Racing Gear (RG) to be better than TEIN.

I've put 500+ miles on my ZEAL Function S (672/448 spring rates); they are fantastic. Ride is firm, but very compliant, much better than H&R Sports and stock shocks.

 

i have 17" te-37's and the whell gap isn't bad at all. i turthfully don't think its worth it to spend $1000-$1500 on some coilovers just to drop it an inch.
i am runnign 205/40 tires as well

 

Am I correct in saying that the ZEAL Function S are coilovers & they cost about the same as the TEIN?

Comparing both in everything, the ZEALS are better? or would you plz xplain other differences please.

Thanks again

 

Zeal Function S are aluminum bodied coilovers; non-adjustable for damping. Function S6 are pretty much the equivalent of the TEIN HAs.

More info is available @:

http://www.aj-racing.com

Just click on the Endless product line.

The standard spring rate for ZEAL dampers is 12kgmm(front)/8kgmm(rear), which is 672/448. Sounds SUPER-STIFF, but is actually quite compliant. I think they are matched up perfectly with the shocks. Feels like the tires stay planted on the road, that's the impression I get.

Dunno if the same would be true if you are these spring rates with Ground Control/Truechoice, I have no experience with those setups.

 

But I think the Function S6 cost much more than the TEIN HA.
It really hard to compare them, unless they are at the same price range, but they are not!!

 

$220 for the H&R Sport springs.

1.75" drop, and they work fine with the stock shocks. Trust me, I used them for over a year and a half and had no worries or troubles.

Yeah, it would be nice to get Tein or Zeal stuff, but let's be realistic, even if you can find someone that carries them at realistic prices, it takes forever to get them .....

If you want a nice small drop, and increased handling (yes, they made a difference) for a decent price, the H&R are Type R specific, and they were developed by them in conjunction with the DC Sports guys for the 2000 Speedvision Touring Series.

Don't believe the hype!!

If you really want the good stuff, then you should really just save up and buy full coilovers, but if you want a slight increase in handling and a nice small drop, get the H&R.

 

From what you are telling me, using the H&R sportsprings with the stock shocks
sounds like a very good alternative to spending more money for the
ZEAL suspension. What after market shocks could I use insted of the
stock shocks to improve maybe a little more the suspension in combination
with the H&R sportsprings? or would this be worthless?

Thanks

 

You could go with Bilstein R specific shocks which are a bit stiffer than stock. There are some on the board using them. I may go that route vs. zeals.