I have already posted this before but i think it got taken down i am about to get a new car when i say new it means new to me my two choices are either Type R or the new Lancer Evo give me some pros and cons although they are very different i am sure someone can tell me something about them thanks

 

One has the reliability of a Mitsubishi, the other has the reliability of a Honda.

 

That was a really long run-on sentence.

If you don't know the pros and cons of each car on your own, I don't know what to say. Did you research either car? That would be a start.

People do not like to spoon feed others information if they haven't even attempted to learn something on their own.

 

get both and use one of them as a beater your dilemma now is picking your beater.

 

Evo only nets 180 hp at the weels, and weighs a whopping 3,200lbs!!! That sounds pretty slow and pigish. Theres no way a 3,200lb car will handle worth a crap..
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=440083

edited because people cant read.


[Modified by jond, 9:54 AM 3/12/2003]


[Modified by jond, 10:38 AM 3/13/2003]

 

well if 20hp is responsible for a .7 of a second of the 1/4 mile time then dam... i'll take 20hp more any day (stock 1/4 for a wrx is 14.5 - evo 13.8)

please try and remember the cars tested all had less then a thousand miles, not really a big suprise considering they aren't broken in...

thank u - happily purchsing a Evo in 2 weeks

 

Ill let u know when my friend gets his in 2 weeks. I will do an unbiased compare and contrast of the 2 cars.

EDIT that would be my friend above lol wuddup dave!


[Modified by RTW DC2, 10:12 AM 3/12/2003]

 

lol, 180whp @ 4200lbs... That thing would get blasted by my Jeep Grand Cherokee

 

13.8?
If the findings in the members courner are right, you talking a high 17 second car.

 

ok first off this thread should be locked.

second, a 17 second car? are you out of your mind?

 

Woah... Hold on. First off, I'm pretty sure the Evo is closer to 3200 lbs, not 4200 lbs. Also, remember that awd whp is always a lot lower than 2wd whp. The WRX puts down about 160whp on that dyno, and it will certainly keep up with a Type R's 160whp.

Back to the original question, you'll really have to drive the cars to get anything close to a good decision. A test drive will tell you more about a car than reading statistics a million times over.

Jim

 

there is no freaking way the evo weighs that much...

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH I LOVE IT! I can't wait when the Fast and the Furious 2 comes out starring the Evo, and every ricer has a 4wd turbo that is slower than their mother's Hyundai Elantra.

 

Also, cars do not make more whp as they get 'broken in'.
180whp from a heavy Evo is .... terrible.
Only thing that saves it is the gearing I guess.

How are they losing 91hp from crank to wheels????

 

HP is being distributed to 4 wheels!! not just TWO like our FWD cars!!!

Of course its going to lose a lot more power to the wheels through the drive train, there is twice as much drive train to rob power.

LOCK DIS FRED YO!


[Modified by RTW DC2, 10:21 AM 3/12/2003]

 

13.8 with a trap of 101.5.... according to road and track... mid to low 13's are expected at a track closer to sea level. i think they tested theirs at around 2000ft above sea level...

unlike fwd cars with a ~15% loss from crank to wheels AWD loss is closer to ~25-30%

what up barry warry


[Modified by RTW-S2000, 10:21 AM 3/12/2003]

 

From http://www.mitsubishicars.com

Curbweight = 3263 lbs / 1480 Kg
HP = 271 HP / 273 lb/ft of torque @ 19psi of booost

Go here for more info:
http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMSA/jsp/evo/tech.jsp

 

Thats what a 180whp, 4,200lb car runs. Even if it weighs 3,200(still massive), you're looking at a 16 second car.

I'm just reporting what the guy who dynoed a few EVOs one the member corner found. Read the post if you dont believe me...





[Modified by jond, 10:27 AM 3/12/2003]

 

Was that the a USDM version of the EVO VIII?

 

Gross Vehicle Weight is 4222lbs, curb weight is 3263lbs (as listed on Mitsubishi's web site)

Brian

 

yes that was the USDM, check the most recent issue of road and track, not to mention a 0-60 in 5.1... so if you still think it's a 16sec car i need some of what you are smoking

 

1/4 mile calculator:
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/quartmile.html

input 3,200lbs and 180hp

 

dood you gotta realize thats 180hp going to 4 wheels...not just 2...you cant look at it the same way as our ITRs

 

I wouldn't use that as hard evidence, are you supposed to enter bhp, whp, insert other variable here...... besides, put in 271hp and 3200 lbs and you get 14.1, close to what the magazine number was.

Brian

 

Its whp. Put in the whp of a type-r and the weight, and you'll get about what we run.

You're right though, the fact thats its 4 weel drive probably throws this thing off a bit. Can't imagine it would throw it off by 2 seconds though.

edit: I take that back. Its net hp.




[Modified by jond, 10:39 AM 3/12/2003]