I sent this head to customer who returned back telling me that is not what i said it is. I pulled it off the car with my own hands and i know what type of head it is unless when the machine shop rebuilt it with new valve seals they did the switcharoo which i doubt happened. post only if you are 100% positive that you know what is. thanks

 

PR3 head = B16A as well as ITR/CTR head.

ITR/CTR is a polished version of the B16A head.

 

Absolutly right thats B16 or Type R.

Usually the Type R head has green paint on the back side of the intake cam main where there is a accecory brkt.

Just checked your pics and its a Type R


[Modified by tk, 1:09 PM 2/13/2003]

 

It's a 2nd Gen usdm delsol B16 head

 

this head was sandblasted and rebuilt dont forget. I knew i was going to get mixed responses. keep the responses coming.

 

It's a 2nd Gen usdm delsol B16 head

 

The dimples on the faces of the valves look too big to be ITR valves.

Look into the intake ports and look for the tapered valve stem.

 

How do you know? Not questioning your answer, i just want to know how

 

something to do with the codes

 

The head was pulled directly from a 2000 or 2001 integra type R. I just wanted to verify. thanks for all your help guys.

 

so whats the problem with the customer? just a jackass?

 

first off....
the B16A head is off either 1st or 2nd gen SiR's and also can be found in some Del sol's known as the B16A3
1 gen B16a1 or B17A(92-93 GSR)
2 gen B16A2
Del sol B16A3
Best used because of better flow through the head

and it will tell you on the head it self it should say above the exhaust ports PR3-1( 1 gen) PR3-2( 2nd gen ) PR3-3 ( 2nd Gen usdm delsol ...........


Here are some engine code while i'm here.......

A20A3 Honda Accord 1988-1989
B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi (JDM) 1990-1991
B16 Acura Integra XSi/RSi 1992-1993
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1989-1991
B16A Honda Civic (EDM) 1992-1995
B16A Honda Civic VTi 1996-2000
B16A Honda Del Sol/CRX SiR 1992-1996
B16A Honda Civic SiR (JDM-Hatch) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX 1.6i/VTi (EDM) 1989-1992
B16A1 Honda CRX SiR 1990-1991
B16A1 Honda Civic SiR (JDM) 1990-1991
B16A2 Honda Civic Si 1999-2000
B16A2 Honda Civic SiRII (JDM) 1992-1995
B16A2 Honda Del Sol (JDM) 1993-1995
B16A3 Honda Del Sol 1992-1995
B16B Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 1998-2001
B17A1 Acura Integra GSR 1992-1993
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1990-1991
B18A1 Acura Integra GS 1992-1993
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1994-1995
B18B1 Acura Integra GS/LS/RS 1996-2000
B18C Acura Integra SiR (JDM) 1995-1997
B18C1 Acura Integra GSR 1994-2001
B18C3 Honda Integra Type R 1995-1998
B18C5 Acura Integra Type R 1998-2001
B18C5 Honda Integra Type R 1997-2001
B20A3 Honda Prelude 2.0 S 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude 2.0 Si 1990-1991
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20A5 Honda Prelude Si 1988-1989
B20B Honda CRV 1997-1998
B20Z Honda CRV 1998-2001
B21A1 Honda Prelude Si 1990-1991
C30A Acura NSX 2002+
C32B Acura NSX 2002+
D15A Honda Civic DX 1988-1991
D15A1 Honda CRX DX 1988-1991
D15A2 Honda CRX HF (Carbed) 1984-1987
D15B2 Honda Civic DX/LX 1988-1991
D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1988-1989
D15B6 Honda Civic HF/CRX HF 1990-1991
D15B7 Honda Civic DX/LX 1992-1995
D15B8 Honda Civic CX 1992-1995
D15Y7 Honda Civic DX/LX/CX 1996-2000
D15Z Honda Civic HF 1996-2000
D15Z1 Honda Civic VX 1992-1995
D16A1 Acura Integra 1986-1987
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A3 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16A6 Honda Civic Si/CRX Si 1988-1991
D16A6 Honda Civic EX 1990-1991
D16A8/9 Acura Integra 1988-1989
D16Y8 Honda Civic EX 1996-2000
D16Z6 Honda Civic EX/Si /Del Sol Si 1992-1995
D17A1 Honda Civic DX/LX 2001+
D17A2 Honda Civic EX 2001+
EW4 Honda CRX Si 1985-1987
EW4 Honda Civic Si 1986-1987
F20A Honda Accord 2.0Si (JDM) 1990-1993
F20C Honda S2000 2000+
F22 Honda Prelude Si 1992-1996
F22A1 Honda Accord 1990-1993
F22A1 Honda Prelude S 1992-1996
F22A4 Honda Accord 1990-1991
F22A6 Honda Accord 1991-1993
F22B1 Honda Accord EX 1994-1997
F22B2 Honda Accord DX/LX 1994-1997
H22 Honda Accord SiR 1994-1997
H22 Honda Prelude VTEC 1992-1996
H22A Honda Prelude SiR (JDM) 1997-2001
H22A Honda Prelude 1999-2001
H22A Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1997-2001
H22A1 Honda Prelude 1997-1998
H22A1 Honda Prelude VTEC 1994-1996
H23 Honda Prelude Type S (JDM) 1993-1995
H23A1 Honda Prelude SE/Si 1992-1996
K20A Acura Integra (JDM) 2001+
K20A Honda Civic Type R (JDM) 2001+
K20A Integra Type R (JDM) 2001+
K20A Acura Integra IS (JDM) 2001+
K20A2 Acura RSX Type S 2001+
K20A3 Acura RSX 2001+
K20A3 Honda Civic Si 2002+
K24 Honda CRV 2002+ ZC Honda CRX (JDM) 1990-1993
ZC Honda CRX Si16/1.6i (JDM) 1989-1992
ZC Honda CRX Si (JDM) 1985-1987
ZC Acura Integra (JDM) 1990-1993
ZC Acura Integra (JDM) 1986-1989
ZC Honda Civic Si (JDM) 1986-1987
ZC Honda Civic Si (JDM) 1988-1991

 

the customer was an idiot. he first sent me 300 to hold it for almost a month until he had all the money. i sent it complete to idaho overnight 180.00 shipping. he got it and his mechanic says its not type r. he asked somether Guru's in "idaho" and they said it doesnt have a port job. as if it is extremely noticeable stock and the head was sandlblasted also. he sent it back 100.00+ shipping and he got his money back minus the 300.00 non refundable deposit he agreed from the beginning for holding it. I'm sorry if i was ripping him off i would refund all his money if he caught me but I do not do business like that. my only thought was the machine shop did the switcharoo on me but now i know they didnt. he accepted his partial refund and went on his way. now what doesnt make sense to me is that teh customer paid 300.00,180,100, becuase he didnt think the head was type r. he thought it was b16. he knew the cams,intake manifold, throttle body, valves, dual valve springs, injectors and everything else was type r. for 580.00 he could have gotten it ported nicely and polished better than factory. made no sense to me at all.

 

If it had those valves oroignally form the factory its a ITR head. Only difference from B16 and ITR is the valve seats, valves, LMAs....and SLIGHT more port near the valve seats...and of course the paint.

 

the valves in it are the same ones that came in it when i pulled the head. the head had never been off the car either so i know its not b16.

 

where in idaho was this guy from, im from idaho i may know him
and not all people from idaho are idiots!!!!

 

somebody went to http://www.hondaswap.com

great site, plenty of helpful information

 

My 2000 B16 head is PR3-3 and my 2001 ITR head is PR3-4.
And it sounds like your customer is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

 

Besides everything! PACMAN forget an Engine code. IF SOME CAN GUESS WHAT A B18C4 IS AND WHAT IT COMES IN, THEY GET A COOKIE.
I CHALLENGE YOU, PACMAN. J/K

 

I didnt say everyone from idaho was an idiot but this particular person was.

 

was that the euro-spec type R or GSR?

 

yea i was just stating, casue most people think we are just rednecks and whatnot, LOL

where in idaho was this guy located?

 

Actually the best way to tell an 89-91 B16A/PR3 head from a 92-00 B16A/PR3 head is way easy. Although I can't tell in this pic...



but, if there's an embossed '30' in the area shown below (area between vtec solenoid & distributor) then its definitely a 92-00 head. Now, whether or not its an ITR/CTR head, the best way to tell is by looking down into the intake ports with a light and seeing the light port job seen below as well. There's also the green paint thats near the distributor mounting area, but that can easily be cleaned off. I was never kin to the head part number(s) (pr3-3 etc) since they all seem to be misleading sometimes:





[Modified by Katman, 10:47 AM 2/14/2003]


[Modified by Katman, 10:56 AM 2/14/2003]

 

This pic is taken from the C-Speedracing.com TYPE R HEAD that is for sale, same numbers at the one you have...

 

Can I pay the difference of what's left to pay on it and take it off your hands?