I was talking to a guy who I'm gonna prolly buy my JDM FD and flywheel off of, and he said he wouldn't recommend the Toda flywheel an ITR b/c its too light to be used in conjuction with the JDM FD. He said if ur in fifth, and then begin coasting towards a red light the car will shut off b/c its too light. Huh? Is that true?

He recommended the Spoon one and I said I was "Iffy" about it b/c of the starter problem, but he said it really isn't that big of a deal. If it doesn't start one time it'll start the next.
And he said that Exedy one is like the Toda, too light, car will shut off, and starter problems.

I personally wanted the Exedy one now b/c its cheaper than the Toda (which I've heard is the best regarding quality), and doesn't have the same problems the Spoon FW has. But now not too sure.

Can you guys validate anything he said? B/c now I don't know what I want anymore.

Jason

 

I have never experienced 5th gear stalls my TODA flywheel in my B20Vtec.

 

He doesn't know what he is talking about. I have a 7.5 lb fly with no stalling problems.

 

I've never stalled the car with my 8.75lb flywheel.

I can't think of any negatives to having a lightweight flywheel, I love mine

edit- The starter issue on the JDM flywheels is hard to say. Some people have the problem and others go forever without ever experiencing any problems with it. Not sure if there are any JDM flywheels which are USDM starter friendly. I use a Comptech flywheel which they guaranteed me would have no issues and if it did Comptech would replace the flywheel and starter at no charge even for labor at a local Acura dealer. They already replaced it for free for one small defect issue I had with it


[Modified by SurferX, 7:19 AM 2/13/2003]

 

please have your friend dial 1-800-imretarded

 

yes you're "friend" is a complete ******* retard. The only thing for sure is that I would never listen to his advice again.

BTW, have you compared the weights of the Toda and Spoon FW? They are what, .1KG different?

And the starter problem is more serious then he claims, just ask assdime.

 

Never heard of that problem nor have I experience and 5th gear stalls with my comptech FW which is lighter than the toda.

 

Starter problem totally sucks....here's what happened to my Jun w/a USDM starter....



...nice teeth!

 

OK, so the TODA flywheel IPS sells will have starter problems or no?

Not trying to jack the thread but...
I like the idea of the clutch, flywheel and pressure plate being balanced together (toda kit). What clutch plate and pressure plate does comptech recommend to use with their flywheel?

 

Unbelieveable...here is some technical info on both Spoon and Toda. We sell both, but I only LIKE to sell the Toda. Weight is, as stated above, almost identical. Both are chromoly. Difference is that Toda maintains more mass at the hub, thus takes less effort or power to spin than the Spoon. The teeth on the Toda are beveled to accept whichever starter Honda decided to provide you with, as well. Hope this helps.


SHAMELESS PLUG - We will be announcing a Toda FW/Exedy Clutch combo in the near future, too. Pricing will be BETTER than it has EVER been.

 

Does a flywheel really do that much? I mean ****, yuo rev. faster, big deal. I dunno, waste of money IMO.

 

CW: Of all the Toda FW's I know of, none grind. They also have holes in them making them easier for drunk people to install (hold screwdriver in hold against motor and tighten bolts)

 

exactly, same as HIDs, you see better (at night with the lights on), big deal. waste of money


[Modified by FyrStarter, 11:24 AM 2/13/2003]

 

I also just thought of something.........Wouldn't Toda have designed their flywheel to work with the JDM FD?!?! What the hell is this guy talking about?!?!

I hope his instalation is better than his advice

 

I detected a hint of sarcasm in your response, but I would honestly like to know what the benefits of a lighter flywheel are? Is it good to be able to rev quicker? If so, why?

 

It is always better to rev faster.

Also it is a good thing when less mass is bolted to the crankshaft.

 

once you drive an ITR wid one you'll wonder why honda didn't do it in the 1st place.

 

Better Throttle response and Slightly improved acceleration due to less rotational mass of the flywheel.

 

My spoon grind wheel is at about a 90% grind ratio now... and I have to push the car and pop the clutch to get the flywheel to move so i can start it about 40% of the time now.. its rocks.... You should see when I let other people drive it or I valet the car
Valet: Umm sir, you car does not want to start.
Me: Just push the damn thing then pop the clutch to move the fly.
Valet: Umm, what?
Me: Forget about it, where is it parked....

Craig - Who really need to get that fixed one of these years


[Modified by AssPenny, 12:19 PM 2/13/2003]

 

Wow, sounds like I need to get one. If I keep my EK, I'm considering a JDM FD, or ATS FD along with the Toda clutch/pp/flywheel package in my b18c5. would this be an okay combo?

 

What do you guys think of the new ACT flywheels? Look pretty nice and decent price too. Kinda look like the Exedy flywheels to me.

 

sux0rs for joooh
that is NOT sounding like a fun mod... then to have to buy another flywheel and install it... no thanks. ACT got my business for their 8.8# chromoly fly

 

If I were you, I would further not get any more advice from him.

I have Toda clutch/flywheel AND ATS 4.9 final drive. No complaints from me. Runs better than stock in my opinion.

 

Yeah , Light weight FW are good, No Doubt.

However I'm concerned with the "FlyWheel EATING Starter Motor" !!!

Is this just a USDM problem, ummm, I mean, is the USDM get a different Starter motor from the rest of us? Why?

Later.

 

Well, heres how i looked at it, get a FW made for a USDM starter......I got a clutchmasters stage 4 clutch and the 8lb flywheel.....no complaints from me.......