What are the differences between the 2001 and 2002 S2K? Or are there any?

 

Instrumental panel now have chrome look, Center console is now leather, Rear window is glass and mechanism is now slightly different, Shift **** has leather around, Shifter is again improved upon, Dead pedal is standard, Headunit changes to improve quality, Chrome ring around the rear taillights, Interior can be one color only from seats, panels to carpet etc., Tweater on door panel, Cargo net added on the bottom of the door, emergent trunk release.

 

The big change, if you can call it that, was between '00 and '02:

2002 MODEL DIFFERENCES REPORTED BY OWNERS

• The speaker’s in the door have been changed. They are blue-plastic, have no 'paper' cone, magnet is still small, but owner’s report the 2002 sounds vastly better.

• The shift **** has the center area milled out and wrapped with leather.

• The black interior color shade has changed to a dark grey or charcoal bluish black shade.

• The stereo has digital bass/treble/fade/bal controls. You push the right **** and set them as opposed to small black ***** that you would push to pop-out.

• The tonnue cover changed. There is only 1 clip on the each side to push in from underneeth. The elastic bands straps on each side remain the same. Reportedly its easier to attach and doesn't appear to 'flap' up like previous design.

• The shade of wheels are a slightly darker silver with a little more metallic-flake.

• Heat and A/C fan are more powerful. The 2nd and 3rd fan speeds are noticeably more effective.

• A chrome ring has been added to the tail-lights.

• A metal ring has been added to the interior door panel pulls.

• The horn reportedly has a different tone.

• The plastic trim piece that outlines the dash, as well as the trapezoidal plastic plate in which the roof and hazard buttons sit, are made of a different color/finish plastic – a gray, grooved plastic rather than the bland black untextured plastic.

• The cupholder cover and trash hole behind it are textured plastic as opposed to the same untextured earlier ones.

• The dead-pedal is now metal/rubber and matches the other pedals.

• A leather console cover replaces the carpet console cover.

• The soft-top now has a glass window and rear-defroster in place of the original plastic window. It is smaller in size and the top frame was redesigned to accommodate the glass.

• The buttons for the defroster and cruse-control on switches are a different shape.

• The new window defrost button is the cruise control on the right side of the steering wheel.

• There is a small subtle change in the trunk lid shape at the rear, near the trunk brake light. Reportedly this was to meet the Federal safety standard measurements.

• The tach indicator line is now white and the scale connected by a solid white arc line.

• The outside Honda badges are larger.

• A second post has been added to the carpeted floor mats to secure them.

• Very small storage pockets were added to the doors [too small for anything but perhaps a garage door opener].

• Paint color changes were made. In the US, Sebring Silver replaced Silverstone Metallic (the newer is a brighter silver). Suzuka Blue Metallic was added.

• The front sway bar was reportedly reduced slightly in size.

• Interior leather and plastic colors have changed. For example, earlier Silver cars came with a combination of red and black interior. The 2002 model comes with a solid red interior (dash, doors, center storage, etc.).

• UK differences include:

- Single slot CD player in place of a tape deck.

- New colors are Nurburgring Blue (reportedly the same color as Suzuka Blue); they also get Monte Carlo Blue. Indy Yellow (same as Spa Yellow) was added. They did not get Sebring Silver.

- They may have different spring and damper settings, and possibly different chassis alignment.


Some of the VISUAL differences between 2000 - 2002's as mentioned above.

00-01 black dash and center console carpet

2002 leather console added

00-01 Standard accents

2002 silver and aluminum accents added


00-01 Doors, no tweeters

2002 tweeters added

00-01 tails

2002 tails with chrome rings added


00-01 Radio

2002 radio is a newer design/more powerful and is silver


[Modified by Jason B, 11:32 PM 2/9/2003]

 

good info

 

i also heard that the ecu is different. it's more agressive resulting in 5 more hp or something.

 

wow nice info and pics

 

No changes in the ECU as far as power managment. HP stays the same at 240.

 

2000 vs 2001 is......

2001 had the windscreen & Floor mats standard and the radio has a clock.

I think those are the only changes between 2000 and 2001. The real changes came from 2001-2002 with the glass window, etc....

 

I also noticed this minor change between the 00-01' and my 02'

The metal placard on the doorsill is different.

00-01


02'

 

Yea, but the power is more effectively placed on the ground. Dyno shops everywhere reported 2002 s2k to give about 5whp more than 2000-1 s2k.

 

<U>• The horn reportedly has a different tone.</U>

Actually, the 2002 + has 2 horns instead of one, thats why it sounds different.!

 

Not from what I've seen on mine and on friends S2Ks (mix of 01's and 02's and my 03). The 02's and 03's seem to pull stronger. Its not just a "rumor" there are lots of dyno plots to support it. Check out S2Ki.com

-J



[Modified by PornStarRacingB16-T, 11:46 PM 2/15/2003]

 

How come that 2002 Yellow S2k has a darker black interior than the 01 S2k? I thought Jason B said that the newer S2k's have dark grey interior instead of black.

 

That's my yellow S2k. I noticed the difference as well. It's probably lighting conditions. I took that pic at night in my garage. Plus camera differences may apply as well.

 

yes, i think the only thing it could be is that just like with any car, the engine will become weaker over time.

does a slipping clutch cause a loss of horsepower on the dyno?

 

No it shouldn't the graph is taken in 4th gear and will not even start until an RPM well after teh clutch release point.

Some of the numbers on a few of those cars were dissappointing. Especially thsoe in the high 180's to low 190's region.

Everyone knows an S2K is much faster when the tires are on the ground oppose to a dyno though.....

 

You can post as many dyno's with a bunch of people's single runs (unless those are the averages, but I didn't get that impression). Look at the facts:

a) There are almost no two cars alike in your list (different years / different mods)
b) I doubt all the runs were on the same dyno in the same temps and the exact
same environment. But I guess they could have been so I would even conceed
that point.
c) Most people attribute the different power numbers to the fact that the ECU's are
different in the 01 and the 02. (Different part numbers and different prices)
'01 ECU - Part Number 204695
'02+ ECU - Part Number 443195

I'm not trying to argue over a few horses, I just dont see how your list of dyno pulls proved anything at all. The fact is that no one but honda can test enough S2000's in the same conditions at the same level of modification to test it.

You can't prove that the rumor is not true (despite your above 'argument') any more than I can prove that is is with my resources. "In my opinion" and "in my experience" (phrases that will probably garner you alot less hostility than "Again--no", which implies that for some reason I should take your word over experience and my own observations) I have seen '02+ make more power than the earlier models.

-J

 

The 2002 ECU is $555 wholesale. Peak gains for the 2002 ECU (on my dyno in my 2001) averaged about 5 hp more and there were gains pretty much across the board. I still haven't had a chance to dyno a 2000-2001 model on the stock ECU and then a 2002 ECU to see if it makes a difference, so no guarantees that it is the ECU yet.

From another post:

"I'm thinking it's any or all of the following:
- ECU

- Transmission (possibly the transmission upgrade in the '02 models has better bearings or something causing less loss fom engine to wheels)

- Valve Adjustments( I remember someone postiong that they were a honda tech and said that the value jeights on the '02 models were coming in differently than the '00 - '01.)

From what I recall the valve adjustment.. the guy was saying the '02 models had the one of the intake valves on each cylinder close to the upper limit of the spec and the other intake valve close to the lower limit and both exhaust valves down near the lower limit. Someone followed up by saying this adjustment did increase the power slightly because it caused a "cyclone effect" which packed more air/fuel into the engine per cycle. Anyone else hear anything about that also?

What ever the reason for the '02+ models having more power, I want to know... Cause in my case it was the difference between pulling on and getting pulled on."

 

csteve: Still looking for your proof. Or even a hint that you know what you're talking about.

2001_S2000: I'd be very interested in seeing a test like that in a 00-01 with an 02 ECU. Perhaps that could be a way to answer the question that *most* everybody seems to agree about anyway.

If there is anyone with access to a dyno in the Maryland area and access to a 2000-2001 , I'd be willing to loan out a 2003 ECU for a little test




[Modified by PornStarRacingB16-T, 1:54 AM 2/23/2003]

 

Very nice info... I seen the differences at the showroom, buit I love the new rear lights. That chrom accent 0wnz. Very nice