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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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I've been researching cages lately and the different designs out there. IT specifies 8 attachment points. So, this means you can have any number of bars you want, as long as there are no more than 8 attachment points to the car. This means bars can attach to other bars that attach to the car, but just not to the same base attachment point.

I 'm trying to figure this one out. It appears from this picture that there's 4 attachments right there. If the other bars were welded to the main support bar about an inch up from the base, it'd be ok - right?


This is Paul's Civic which better illustrates my point. See how there are only two bars attached to the car, not three?


This is a Type R. The rear tower brace is attached to the car at 4 points, so providing the rest of the cage only uses 4 more main attachment points, this would essentially be considered legal - right? Also take a look at the passenger side main hoop, just behind the door window. It appears the cage bolts to the chasis where the factory seatbelt was. This is another attachment point - correct?


Is my thinking on the attachments correct? If so, this allows me a lot of freedom to design (or copy parts of other good cage designs) a cage for my car and get one built in time for this spring.
Thanks.

edit - Can't count. The Type R is not legal. The cage has at least 10 points.


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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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Default Re: New Cage Designs (johng)

the 7th and 8th points must extend forward from the bars folling the a-pilar to the firewall. However like the cages pictured, if they merge to an imaginary point in spaces, it counts as one attachment point (like in the first pic).
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Default Re: New Cage Designs (.RJ)

The attachments in the first two pics each count as one point.

The plates on my rear shock towers each have 4 bars attached to them, but only count as 1 point.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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the 7th and 8th points must extend forward from the bars folling the a-pilar to the firewall.
You mean like these two additional firewall/floor braces?




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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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Those weld points are super!

The red civic is very well done...
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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You mean like these two additional firewall/floor braces?
Yes, those are specifically legal in the GCR and constitute the 7th and 8th points as mentioned above. I would also agree that the first pic would be a legal "single" attachment point, while the ITR's extra attachment points would not be considered legal for IT. I also agree with your assessment of being able to use as many bars as you want/need within the cage for additional bracing. Indeed, I have added a cross brace between my rear supports, a dash bar, and a petty bar as well as door bars nearly exactly as pictured above, all are expressly legal for IT. However, if I took a bar from the middle of the dash bar down to the exhaust tunnel...no good.
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