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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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Yup, Like the title says. Do NOT buy from this guy. He is a total joke. to make a long story short, since there are always threads about scammers, He sold me a 99-00 Civic Si Climate Control Unit that was suppose to be in "good" condition. Well what do you know. I get the unit, and not only is it fuggggggged up, it DOESNT EVEN LIGHT UP AMBER.

Pics of the unit he sent me:
As you can see all of the scratches.




The scratches on the *****, a bit blury but the scratches are visable




another pic, but again a bit blurry


And like I said it didnt Light up amber, here are the bulbs they came with.




I have tried talking to him via PM but doesnt seem to work, seems hes being overlly to defensive. As it is said in this post he made https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=329465 "mine is all busted up" Guess what he sold me????

This is what our PM convo looks like, since I got the Climate Control unit..

10:00 PM 12/2/2002) ArinX: Sup got the climate control i was looking at a few of the bulbs and comparing it to my friends 99 si one, this doesnt look like its gonna light up amber, you sure u sent the correct one??


(10:08 PM 12/2/2002) ArinX: and on closer inspection there are a pretty fair amount of scratchs on this dude, when we talked you said it was a mint condition.


(10:21 PM 12/2/2002) LSturboHB: that IS the 99-00 SI one it lighted up Amber when i took it out and it IS in good shpae as i told you.

(10:28 PM 12/2/2002) ArinX: okay im gonna hook it up tommorow

(8:25 PM 12/3/2002) ArinX: I inspected the climate control you sold me, and i must say, I am deffinetly not impressed. You told me it was in MINT condition when you were selling it, sorry to say it is far far far from mint condition, I will have pictures to show you what you sent me. Also it DOES NOT, once again, DOES NOT light up amber, it lights up just like any other model (ex, cx, dx). again if you didnt catch it...IT DOES NOT LIGHT UP AMBER. If you accidentally sent me the incorrect item, please take care of it, and send me the correct one, and i will return this set you sent me. If you do not wish to come to a compromise, then I will go "public" and let everyone on honda tech know what you did. By all means, I am not threatening you, just trying to get what i paid for. I have 4 fellow honda-tech people here that were with me when we put the controls in, and again IT DID NOT LIGHT UP AMBER. I bought a Si climate control unit and that is what i want. Once again I hope we can reach a mutual agreement, so we wont have any furthur problems. Thank you

(8:51 PM 12/3/2002) LSturboHB: in our past conversation i never used the words "mint" i told you that the 99 SI climate control console that i sent to you was in GOOD condition which it was when i tapped up the box. i don;t know waht the hell you have against me to try and make me look bad. i wrapped it in bubble wrap and secured it perfectly for shippment, i even took a loss on that, i hooked you up on it cause you said you need it really bad. now you are trying to make me look like a liar, **** you dude. i know waht i sold you and i know what you got. i don't rip of **** people over so don;t even try that **** with me thats totaly fucked up.

(11:00 PM 12/3/2002) ArinX: Understandable, you said it was in good condition, you should of said it is in horrible condition. Im not lying nor am i trying to make you look like an idiot, if i wanted to ruin your name on H-T i would of posted this a thread about this, instead of trying to resolve it with you via PM. I have many detailed pictures of the item you sent me, along with the bulbs that you sent with the unit. ONCE AGAIN IT DOES NOT LIGHT UP AMBER. I previously stated, I want what i paid for, not some regular old climate control. I am trying to resolve this like descent people, but it seems you have difficulty keeping your foul mouth to yourself.
Why are becoming sooo defensive, I am calmly tring to get what i paid for, no need to use the language you are using. Like i said, i have detailed pictures, if you do not wish to cooperate with me, We can see what the majority has to say.


(3:35 AM 12/4/2002) LSturboHB: like i have stated before i KNOW what i sent you it came outta MY old car a 99 SI, it DID light up amber, that means ORANGE. i am becoming defensive because i cant believe that you would stoop to this lever. this is a load of crap man. you know damn well when you pulled it out the the bubble wrap that it was NOT in "horrible" condition you are taking this to a unreasonalbe EXTREME, you got what you paid for. as far as your petty threats they do nothing to me, if you feel that you need to boost your ego and try to throught dirt on me then i guess thats you thing. i just cannot fathem that the blubs magicly changed color right after i shipped it out of that the condition of the unit went from good to as you say "horrible". as for my "foul mouth" sorry if my language of choice offends you , but i am very pissed that i am being called a liar and a ripoff.
anyway i need to take my wife to the hosipital so she may have our baby.


(11:05 AM 12/4/2002) ArinX: Congrats on the Baby, and I hope both your wife and your soon to be child are doing well.
I am not making all of this up, I have the pictures to back myself up. I have done my own research on the topics you have created and have figured out what you have sold me. I have also done enough research to realize what car it came off, what you bought, and what you sold me. You may want to go back and edit a few of the topics you have created in the past, which have now been archieved, stating what kind of poor condition your si climate control is, and what you bought to replace it with. Just trying to give you a chance to clear up this mess. Because if we cannot come to a agreement, then I will post on h-t, and if those threads arent edited, people will see what you sold me.

You believe I am in this to ruin your name, but sorry, not everyone is narrow minded like you, I am here to ruin peoples names, nor do i want to turn people against you, I just merely want what i paid for, very simple. If i can not get that, then I will post this so everyone can see. If you do a lot of buying/selling on honda-tech, then be sure you clear this mess up.


(11:07 AM 12/4/2002) ArinX: EDIT: I AM NOT HERE TO RUIN PEOPLES NAMES...NOT

(3:15 PM 12/5/2002) LSturboHB: i do , do alot of buying /selling on HT and i have alot of referneces in which nobodys has ever been so comlicated to deal with at all. So to sum up in all what i am hearinf from you is that you do not want the 99 S climate control i sent to you....correct ? then send it back and i will refund the money in which you paid for it and i will sell it to somone that wants the unit. HOWEVER i'll even eat the shipping that i sent it out with, since you will have to do the same to ship it back to me. this is thee only and easiet way i se this working out in the end, considering my time is now very short to play on the computer,,,,,,family to take care of.
let me know what you plan on doing.

(9:25 PM 12/5/2002) ArinX: Yes I see you do a lot of selling on H-T. Yea I would like my money back. If you need my address please let me know. Also would you get some kind of tracking information please, whether it be delivery confirmation via USPS or any other types available. ONCE AGAIN, IT DID NOT LIGHT UP AMBER. I realize you bought a 98 EK climate control, swapped the bulbs and sold my your old bannged up unit, as you have posted numerous times. Just clarifying what you sent me. Thank you.

(9:28 PM 12/5/2002) ArinX: It would be even better if you would return my money via paypal the way i sent it to you, would make it much easier

(9:44 PM 12/5/2002) LSturboHB: i will paypal you back the money as soon as i recieve a tracking number from you saying it has been shipped. i feel thats fair. going off topic: i DID buy a 98 EK climate control, however as i have told you i don't have much time in my life for my toys. therfore i wouldn't sit down and tear apart 2 climtae control to get bulbs, lol. thats funny. as for the cc unit you have it came out of my recoverd 99 SI civic coupe that i bought back form my insurance.
Anyway, let me know when you have it out and prvide me witha tracking number and i will paypal you back the money immediatly.
whats your email address again ?

(5:09 PM 12/7/2002) LSturboHB: havn't heard from you whats going on ???

(1:55 PM 12/8/2002) ArinX: You took me once with the messed up Climate Control, As soon as I get confirmation thru paypal, I will give you your tracking number the same day, Assuming you paypal it during business hours on the west coast.
In honesty I do not Trust you, So I am not going to send you the unit before you pay me, How do i know you're not going to take the money and the messed up unit?

Oh, BTW it only takes seconds to swap bulbs, you had time to sit down and respond to posts/PM's right before you took your wife to the hospital to have your baby, dont see why you couldnt make time for a few seconds swap out the bulbs, to have you 98EK unit match w/ the rest of your interior. Thank you


(5:11 PM 12/8/2002) LSturboHB: too bad the rest of my interior is NOT amber, since when have you seen my car ? thats what i thought quit with the BS small talk and keep this buisness. thanks
as for me sending the money to you first, you are tripping if you think i am gona send you money first. HELL NO. you'll probly send me some peice of **** Climate control and try to say that it was the one i sent you in the begining, which we both know the one i sent you is/was a SI and was /should still be in good condition.
your options are to....
A: send it out and give me the tracking number then i will pay you AFTER i look it over to make sure you didn't **** it up.
OR
B: keep what the SI climate control in good condition i sent you.
well thats that i really don't care about your threats that you are trying to though at me i know what i snet you was a legit GOOD working SI climate control, thats the bottom line, i am getting worn with this whole deal. if you don't like the options above then....well thats it. and again i am tired of being accused of trying to rip you in anyway and or tampering with the SI climate control unit i sent to you.
and also - re-reading your IM - "it only takes a second to take out the bulbs..." now i know what you did. here you have all the time in the world. and yea i am gona do somthing like that while taking my wife to the hosiptal.....yea right

(12:01 AM 12/9/2002) ArinX: Thats not the only option that I have. I know what you sent me. You know what you sent me. You sent me a jacked up climate control that dont even light up amber. You dont want to settle with me, you dont have to, but i can assure you no body will ever buy from you again. the money is not the question, never was the question, so if you think im crying for the money im not. So if you dont want to fix the situation by sending the money over first, you dont have to, its a free world. But like I said nobody will buy from you ever again.

(12:02 AM 12/9/2002) ArinX: Ever since the beggining you have been on the defense, not once did you respond with a reasonable post. always defensive. But its cool, life goes on. Thanks buddy

Well he did try to settle, but he wanted me to send the money first, yeah thats it, i just got a screwed up Si climate control unit, and you want me to trust you yet again and send you the money. I dont think so.

Hes claiming that I fugged up the climate control, sorry to say I had 2 very well known H-T members with me when we opened up the package. One is Arno (98itR484) we are at his house now, posting this up, and the other Arman (ChargedSi99).

It shouldnt have gotten to this point, but too bad it did. Yes I know there is always 2 sides to a story, so I will let him take a shot at it. but you got all the info right here.

thanks and sorry for this long asssssss post.



Old Dec 8, 2002 | 11:39 PM
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Dang what a loser.. I hate people like that...That **** aint even in "Good" condition...you would have to pay me to put a smote up piece like that in my car..and by the way that is NOT from an si..cause they do NOT come with blue bulb covers...
I suggest you back yourself up LSturboHB cause your rep will be ruined just like all the other low life scammers that pull this crap on the board
Exactly, and if you notice at the end he tries to blame the scrathes and bulbs on us

Old Dec 9, 2002 | 04:08 AM
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lsturbohb is not a scammer. I know him personally. Very good guy.


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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 04:13 AM
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those pics are too blurry to show anything.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 05:02 AM
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that sucks...sorry to hear that.....
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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I have sold many things to many poeple all in which they have had NO problems. as you can see from ebay feedback, vouchs on local import webpages here, here on honda-tech, and paypal. I sent Arinx EXACTLY what he paid 80$ for a 99 SI civic coupe Climate control which was in GOOD condition. And it DID light up amber when it was boxed up here and sent out. you obvioulsy had time to take out the bulbs as shown in that pic. If you read throught the IM's you can see what the deal was since you didn't want it. i told you that if you had a problem with it to send it back and i would paypal you back the 80$ but since you wanted to keep it you post a negitive topic on me, that makes YOU look bad, thats fucked up man.
like i said before i don't really care what others think of me, i know i cam in the right. I gave you the options to either send it back or keep it.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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ugly situation but he offered a solution and you didn't accept.

the pics are very blurry indeed.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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ugly situation but he offered a solution and you didn't accept.

the pics are very blurry indeed.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 09:10 AM
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Those pics are way to blury to see anything. Sorry your not happy but I personally know lsturbohatch and he is a legit guy. If your really this unhappy I'm sure you can work something out with him.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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yes the pics are blury but you can easily tell all the scratches that are on them. The scratches are clearly visable.
Also Nobody in their right minds will send money to some one who has just lied to them. That is just stupid.

Old Dec 9, 2002 | 09:39 AM
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You also need to stop lying. I was there when the package was opened. I personally installed the unit myself, and let me tell you, this unit is a piece of crap, and it doesnt even light up amber. Go read your old posts, you even say you have a Si climate control that is banged up. Which you bought a 98 unit to replace it with. Its people like you that give the import scene a bad rep
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You also need to stop lying. I was there when the package was opened. I personally installed the unit myself, and let me tell you, this unit is a piece of crap, and it doesnt even light up amber. Go read your old posts, you even say you have a Si climate control that is banged up. Which you bought a 98 unit to replace it with. Its people like you that give the import scene a bad rep
lol, whatever man , you guys are tripping i know waht went out it was in GOOD condition and lite up ORANGE/AMBER since its a 99 SI unit. the one I bought is for my new car which is a 98 civic , why would i take out an SI one and put in a Cable operated climate control unit, lol, doesn't make any sense. dumbass

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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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Also i told you, ArinX that i would take it back and paypal you back the money but you obviosly don't want to be mature and honest about the whole thing - i gave you the options and your choice was to keep the unit.
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If I sent you a fuggged up item, and you wanted your money back, would you send out the item first. after you have been lied to??? Would you trust the guy when we said he would paypal you the money back after you trusted him when we said the unit is in good condition??? Think to yourself for a few seconds.

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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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jason is a good guy.. i have bought parts from him in the past and everything came the way he said they would.. hes a legit seller and buyer.. never had a problem.. easy to talk to.. worked out deals for me.. like he stated.. he would take it back and refund the money, but i guess you didn't accept.. i will vouch for him..
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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I have bought a few parts from LSturboHB and he is not a scammer. Personally i think the pics are to blurry to see the scratches. He said good condition not excellent so what do you expect? I would understand being pissed off if you recieved the part and it was cracked but scratched, give me a break. If you are unhappy with it send it back to him and get your money and buy one from someone else or better yet go buy one from a dealership and then you might be happy with it.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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AGAIN i offer a refund so ALL can see, take it or leave it.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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i cant comment on your dealings with him, so i wont
but just for the record
ive sold a few parts to lsturbohb
he has always come through, he sends out the payment fast
and seems like a good guy from talking to him
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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Ok, I usually try to stay out of **** like this, but Im gonna voice my opinion


First of all, you are lucky LSturboHB is nice enough to offer a refund.
There is a huge risk of buying items over the internet, obviously there is going to be a difference of the definition of "good condition" between two parties.
If you were unsure of the condition, you should have asked for pictures, if he couldnt provide pictures of what "condition" it was in, you shouldnt have taken the risk to buy it.

Now, if LSturboHB said it was in good condition with little or no scratches, then i believe he was in the wrong.

However, two peoples opinions are going to be much difference between "good conditions" .

IE. perfect example for you, My friend has an integra, he doesnt care if it has door dings, scratches whatever, but he washes it and does all the suggested mantainence.
Now take my car, i take a **** if there is a spot of dirt I cant get off my car. We would both say our cars are in great condition. however they arent the same


Bottom line, if you dont like it, send it back, get your refund and let this be a learning lesson.....


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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Jason is a legit guy. How about instead of just complaing why dont you actually work towards a solution. He said he would accept it back and would refund your money. Take him up on that, or keep it and shut up.


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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Jason is a legit guy. How about instead of just complaing why dont you actually work towards a solution. He said he would accept it back and would refund your money. Take him up on that, or keep it and shut up.


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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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why dont you take smaller pics or somethin cuz I cant see **** in those pictures...too blurry

I have no exp with him but if hes offering you a refund take it
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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I've dealt with LSturboHB also recently. He's LEGIT in my book, but everyone will have their own opinion and experience. We traded parts and both shipped our own package as a mutaul agreement. My package arrive as expected.

My though about this is that you should just have accepted the REFUND if you were not happy about what you received, especially if he OFFER to REFUND the money back. Regardless of what the condition of the item- HE offer a REFUND and i assume you declined since this post is up about him. And the pictures arent too clear either. From what I see it as- in his opinion about the item it was in 'good condition.' Now after you received it, to you it wasn't what you expected and you were unhappy. Instead of REFUSING the item and accepting a refund, you kept it.

This can easily be RESOLVED by accepting a REFUND and RETURN the item for the amount paid. This does not need to be dragged any futher.

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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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LSturboHB =
ArinX =
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Solution offered but someone didnt take it. LSturboHB is a good guy in my book for even offering a solution. Thats very honest of you!


"the one I bought is for my new car which is a 98 civic , why would i take out an SI one and put in a Cable operated climate control unit"<------ thats pretty funny. I would agree to that there boyz.
Old Dec 9, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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ArinX =
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Solution offered but someone didnt take it. LSturboHB is a good guy in my book for even offering a solution. Thats very honest of you!

The soloution is not exactly fair, i send him the climate control back He says" oh **** my thing lit up amber and wasnt like this, im not giving you your money back" If he fuged me over once who says he wont do it again? and as for pics i will have smaller more sharper ones tonight. I dont get you guys, i wanted the climate control i payed him for it, i expected something that was in "good" condition and actually lit up amber. Why would i want to keep something that i have already in my car?? **** mines in mint condition. ur making it sound like im tryin to scam him, out of what???

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