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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 05:16 PM
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Default ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc?

any thoughts?
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Default Re: ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc? (G-Prime)

yes their the same
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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Default Re: ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc? (G-Prime)

No. Same pressure plate, different friction disc.

The 97,98,2000 are the same part #'s. 2001 is different.

97,98,2000 Acura parts:

22300-P73-025
Pressure Plate Same as GSR, LS, RS

22200-P73-R01
Clutch Disc R only

?????-???-???
Release Bearing (I think it's a Toyo Roki)

22100-P73-005
Flywheel R only
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 12:45 AM
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Default Re: ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc? (96IntegraRS)

according to those part #s all the parts are itr specific.
i know the plate is different. same clamping force, less surface area
disc i would assume to be the same material and build, just less area to match the plate
flywheel we all know is different.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 03:34 AM
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I was always under the impression the PP was different and the discs were the same.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 06:32 AM
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Default Re: ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc? (newgsrdriver)

icant say if this is true now, but the non vtec had less clamping force than
the gsr/itr plate.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 07:02 AM
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Default Re: ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc? (96IntegraRS)

No. Same pressure plate, different friction disc.

The 97,98,2000 are the same part #'s. 2001 is different.

97,98,2000 Acura parts:

22300-P73-025
Pressure Plate Same as GSR, LS, RS
OK, I got some different information (ie. than stated above) from my local Acura dealership yesterday. I went there yesterday and inquired about the pressure plate, friction disc, throw out bearing for my '94 GS-R and this is the information that I was given (ie. Acura parts print-out).

22300-P72-020 pressure plate

22200-P72-015 friction disk

So, it appears that not all the '94-'01 Integras share the same pressure plate and friction disk. I had always heard the the Type-R pressure plate had a little bit more clamping force (~15%) than the non-Type-R pressure plate. This would make since since there are different part numbers. But, I had also had always heard that the friction disk was the same. Any thoughts, comment, further information, etc?

Also, one more thing. I had saved some information from a previous post which stated that there were two different part numbers for the Type-R friction disk.

22200-P73-025 friction disk ('97-'98 Type-R / made in Japan)

22200-P73-R01 friction disk ('00-'01 Type-R / made in Ohio)

Does anyone now if the is a benefit to one or the other? I would suspect not, but you never know.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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Default Re: ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc? (BSQ)

So, it appears that not all the '94-'01 Integras share the same pressure plate and friction disk. I had always heard the the Type-R pressure plate had a little bit more clamping force (~15%) than the non-Type-R pressure plate. This would make since since there are different part numbers. But, I had also had always heard that the friction disk was the same. Any thoughts, comment, further information, etc?
Like I said, the clamping force is the same. the area is less on the itr.

The clamping force is designated by a colored dot on the plate.
Red, Blue, and Green. Red being strongest, and Green(i think) being the weakest.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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Like I said, the clamping force is the same. the area is less on the itr.
Can you explain why the Type-R has less surface area? Does it have anything to do with using a differenet flywheel (ie. lighter)? Also, does this mean that a Type-R pressure plate and friction disk will not mount up/match up to a '94-'01 non-Type-R flywheel?

The clamping force is designated by a colored dot on the plate.
Red, Blue, and Green. Red being strongest, and Green(i think) being the weakest.
Interesting information. I will look for this when I replace my clutch.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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Default Re: ITR clutch disc same as GSR clutch disc? (BSQ)

Can you explain why the Type-R has less surface area? Does it have anything to do with using a differenet flywheel (ie. lighter)? Also, does this mean that a Type-R pressure plate and friction disk will not mount up/match up to a '94-'01 non-Type-R flywheel?
Lets see if i remember my physics.
Pressure = Force / Area
Force is constant, reduce area and pressure increases

the pressure plate housing is still the same piece, just the contact plate is different(pretty sure on this one).
Either way, everything is interchangable.
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