I'm atempting to do my first Honda engine rebuild. So far I have torn the engine down and I'm taking it to the machinist today. I've helped my brother with some of his Chevy v-8 rebuilds before so I have some of the basics, I was just wondering if anyone has any Honda specific info they can share with me. Perhaps some website links, or past H-T thread links that would be helpful (search didn't give me much) Also, any more good sources for parts (so far I've only seen http://www.importperformanceparts.net)

The engine I'm rebuilding is a d16a6, and my main objectives are reliability and low to moderate budget. If I get more power out of the deal, all the better! My current engine (d15b2) has over 200k miles on it, and I want this d16 to give me another 200k.

Any input would be greatly apreciated! especially before the machine work gets started.


[Modified by thumpu77, 7:21 AM 9/25/2002]

 

I am not a tech, but the d16a6 is one hell of a motor I would still be driving one if it weren't for the b16 ef I just aquired!

a good haynes manual or such would be a big help in your adventure also.

 

Shea-bird, thanks for the reply.

I must be asking really dumb questions since no one else is replying. Mainly, I just wanted to see if there were any other options for parts other than the site I listed above.
Also, since I live in hicksville, where everyone drives a Ford or Chevy 4X4, I'm worried that none of the machine shops around me really have any experiance with the honda blocks (It just seems to me that the cylinder design would make surfacing the deck difficult.) I went with a shop that was highly recomended (by some Chevy guys) and they assured me that they've done plenty of honda motors before. So, I'm crossing my fingers.

 

If you use the head from a 96 up d16y7, you'll have high compression. You'll need the intake manifold and distributor from a 88-91 crx si. Your car will haul ***. I promise. Make sure you take your pistons with the block when it goes to the machine shop, then theres no way they can make a mistake.

 

The MPFI swap is already done
I was planning on using the a6 head because of the wide variety of aftermarket cam choices. Is there a good selection of cams available for the y7?

Also I don't want to kick my compression too high, I want to be able to run 89 octane. Plus reliability is top priority, cost second, and performance third (If I can do something cheaply or for free that will increase performance without sacrificing reliability, then I'm all for it.

 

stick with the a6 head port/polished

run a goood sized cam like 265+ duration/ adj cam gear

get some stiff springs

mill head to 35 thousandths

run y8 metal headgasket

get d16a1 domed 89 integra pistons

dc 4-1, 2.25 exhaust, straight pipe,

cold air intake, GSR TB, y8 intake manifold

ligten oem flywheel to 11-12 lbs

get a ZC tranny, put the Si final drive in it

u then have a d16a6 with at least 11:1 compression from the pistons alone, that will smoke the **** out of lot stuff that cost much more.


[Modified by JaeOne3345, 12:46 AM 9/26/2002]

 

from what i read in another post, h-parts.com has some cheap honda parts. also don't forget about http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com as well. shop around and get the cheapest prices!

also, the one thing i would recommend is getting the block hot tanked after the machine shop is done with their work. i decided to no strip the entire block down and cleaned it by hand. what a pain in the ***. striping the block and putting it back together would have saved me time.

if you have any other questions just ask.

 

i totally agree

 

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Sorry to beat a dead horse guys, but my machine work is now done and I'm still trying to find the parts I need to get the bottom end back together.

All the bores and bearings are still to stock specs, the engine was in great shape and just needed honing and polishing. I'm just going to stick with the stock pistons for reliability and budget reasons. So I'm looking for main, rod, and thrust bearings, rings, oil and water pump, and gasket set.

I can't believe how hard it is to find this stuff. The machine shop offered to get the parts for me for an astronomical price. I tried http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com but you have to buy the stuff individually, and it added up fast!! I didn't understand http://www.h-parts.com, it seems to be some kind of membership thing where you have to know the honda part # in order to get a price. so, I'm still stuck with http://www.importperformanceparts.net. Granted, they do have decent prices, I just can't believe there isn't any competition for these guys out there!

Has anyone tried rebuild kits from local autoparts stores like Napa or Car Quest? I haven't priced them yet, but I just may do that tommorow.

 

i was scanning the site for the same info when i ran across your post and may i suggest ACL bearings for your main and rod set, D16Z6/Y8 oil pump, as it flows much more than stock. check with "earl" or "rocket" on H-T for bearings.
gasket set will most likely end up being around 150-200 dollars from majestic honda. water pump can be found at autozone or NAPA. why are you reluctant to hot-rod using stock parts? those D16A1 pistons are cheap, you can even find them used. using Y7 head will alow you to use A6 specific cam, but it has bigger valves. and Y8 intake mani is much better design than the stock one. also there is a common trick of using B series rods, which removes the most fail prone part in your A6, the B18B rods will fit the crank and pistons with little machining, the rods can be found for 50-100 a set, machining is another 50.
good luck with your rebuild, and i am closely behind you
stan

 

i dunno about ACL bearings but i am a fan of OEM honda bearings. i would highly recommend using them. i think i even heard once that NASCAR motors use OEM honda bearings...

also right on the h-parts.com site it says the following:
so give them a call!


[Modified by breaka_1_9, 7:07 AM 10/3/2002]

 

...I dont know what you're up to, but don't get to close to me!

 

heh, funny
my rebuild, you sicko!
stan

 

For anyone else doing this rebuild, I thought I'd share my findings:

I did some shopping today, and this is what I came up with:

the following are prices for:
main and rod bearings, thrust washers, piston rings, and complete gasket set.

Napa - $332.57
Auto Zone - $357.99
Knects (a local auto parts chain in the NW) - $319.25
Local Honda dealer (jobber price) - $462.73
http://www.hparts.com - $489.74 (yes, MORE than the dealer!!!)
http://www.importperformanceparts.net - $216.00

Guess I'm sticking with import performance parts.

 

try http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com

 

I had too hard of a time trying to track all of the parts i needed down on majestic's site, so I gave up on them.

Most things I price out on them, my dealer usually quotes me the same price (and I don't have to deal with shipping charges)

 

I decided to bring this old post back to life because I am looking for suggestions on rebuilding a D16A6. I am wondering how this set up would work.

Head
Exospeed D16A6 Head Package Stage 1 $925.00

Bottom End
Stock Main Rebuild Kit $216.00

Any suggestions or ideas on how I could build a D16A6?

 

go to goldeeaglemfg.com

they built my gsr short block and they are also building d16..

u should stroke ur motor to 1.8, knifed the crank, 11:1 compression, eagle rods, and as for the head go to portflow( the best ), they built my head and opened up the combustion chamber to 2.0 spec, made about 37 whp with Jun3

good luck

 

i'am sorry it's goldeneaglemfg.com

 

That's exactly the route I'm planning to go. I've got the bottom end done and in using importperformanceparts.net's "re-ring kit", a basic Clean, deck, and hone job from a local machine shop, new water pump, all belts and hoses, rebuilt oil pump, etc. and the stock head is bolted back on with a Y8 headgasket until I can afford to move on to the next step (the exospeed stage 1 head). I think if I did it again I would go with the A1 pistons. right now the engine just barely feels like it has more power than my old D15B1, swapping out the old 4-speed for an si tranny made more of a difference than the engine did.

 

Good work bro!!!!

Now I want u to beat those other civics with momy and daddy's swap...
then after u beat em...pop the hood..BAMMM....d16 baby!!!

 

wrong. if you wanna use a a6 "specific" cam then you better find a 88-95 sohc non vtec 16 valve head. a y7head is 96+. doesnt work. i wouldnt go spreading this around. might throw a lot of people off.