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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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i got 90 teg knuckles and i was told that they will give positive cambers. so i got ex knuckles try to put them on today and the top sticks out like 3 inches. do i need the top A arm and lower control arms or what. i have the 90 teg top A arm and lower arm, will they work.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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I'm in the same situation, 90-91 EX knuckles with stock civic/crx uppers. I've got postive camber too. Think the 90-93 teg uppers are supposed to fix it.

Can anyone verify?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 12:28 PM
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you actually drove it like that! it look dangerous as heck. i have 90 teg upper A arm and i roughtly measure it to the stock crx A arm and it look the same, even integra lower arm is the same lenght as the crx.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 12:34 PM
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you actually drove it like that! it look dangerous as heck. i have 90 teg upper A arm and i roughtly measure it to the stock crx A arm and it look the same, even integra lower arm is the same lenght as the crx.
Mine isn't THAT bad, but it does wear tires like a beeoch. I think the ball joint placement is different in the teg A-arm. I think the ball joint sits back in a bit, and to my figures that would make the tire camber the right way if you swapped'm.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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90-91 EX knuckles do not cause positive camber. you shouldn't have to change anything except the knuckles and it should all fit together...did you pull the knuckles yourself from an EX? or did someone ship them to you and say they were EX knuckles? i'd say you got 'Teg knuckles again, or they're bent. the control arms bolt up perfectly to EX knuckles.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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i got the knuckles from ezpartsfind.com, im sure they didnt send me the wrong parts. i dont thinks it's bent either because both side was the same. the teg axles i did pull out myself before i found out they didn't work but i'm using the calipers, brackets and rotters from the teg. damn, i should have taken some pics when i had it in so you could see it. the top of the wheel was sticking out the fenders about 2", it was the worse positive camber i have ever seen. the inside of my wheels didn't even touch the ground. are you sure it's should bolt on the same for crx si, because si and dx uses different size axle hub. maybe dx a-arm and lower control arm will fix it. i can get those farely easy at local junkyards. finding ex parts is imposible. OvERaCiD, did you do this swap before and was it on an si or dx?


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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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i have a pair of ex knuckles for sale if anyone is interested.i can show you the stock si ones,and how the ex are different.larger hub for one.i'm located in nj.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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i have a pair of ex knuckles for sale if anyone is interested.i can show you the stock si ones,and how the ex are different.larger hub for one.i'm located in nj.
do you know if the ex knuckles will bolt up to crx si with no mods. what else do i need other than the knuckles (ie. a-arms). apparent, it will bolt up to dx with no problem. i have checked out serveral sight and they all said it will bolt up but they were all dx or hf.


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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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What uppers are you using rice4life? I compared the regular civic and EX uppers. The EX uppers were longer that the regular civics, so I figured to myself hmm that might change the suspension geometery. So I kept the regular civic uppers, I do have positve camber, but it's maybe like 5 degrees max. I've got a friend with 'teg knuckles and uppers and his sits fine.

The teg uppers are slightlyer short by about 1/4" than the civic. Also the ball joint placement looks slightly different. Where the ball joint as at the "tip" of the civic uppers, the 'teg ball joint is about 1/2"-3/4" set back in the A-arm.

Dunno if that helps
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 04:48 PM
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i have a 2" drop and a b16 so in the front i have rea;lly bad camber, if i used the 90 teg knuckles could that correct my problem?
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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What uppers are you using rice4life? I compared the regular civic and EX uppers. The EX uppers were longer that the regular civics, so I figured to myself hmm that might change the suspension geometery. So I kept the regular civic uppers, I do have positve camber, but it's maybe like 5 degrees max. I've got a friend with 'teg knuckles and uppers and his sits fine.

The teg uppers are slightlyer short by about 1/4" than the civic. Also the ball joint placement looks slightly different. Where the ball joint as at the "tip" of the civic uppers, the 'teg ball joint is about 1/2"-3/4" set back in the A-arm.

Dunno if that helps
when i try to install the ex knuckle, i used my stock crx si upper a-arm. the top of the wheel sticks out the fender about 2". so i put the stock brakes back on for now. i do have 90 teg knuckle with upper and lower arms. i just want to know if there is any difference between the dx/hf and si control arms because i know that si have bigger axles hub. i try to put si axles into dx and it didn't fit, that's how i know.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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i have a 2" drop and a b16 so in the front i have rea;lly bad camber, if i used the 90 teg knuckles could that correct my problem?
i have 90 teg knukles for sale if you want.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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Si and DX axles are the same size.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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Si and DX axles are the same size.
the spline on the si axles are larger than dx spline. this is true for 91 crx si axles because i tried to put them in my friends 90 dx hatch and it did not fit. it might be the same on 88-89 civics between dx and si.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Si and DX axles are the same size.

the spline on the si axles are larger than dx spline. this is true for 91 crx si axles because i tried to put them in my friends 90 dx hatch and it did not fit. it might be the same on 88-89 civics between dx and si.
Are Sure it was a DX hatch? My DX hatch had the Si sized knuckles on it stock when I swapped my LS in way back in the day...Unless the hatch had the "DX" emblem on the back of it, then it was a STD. Which shares the same knuckle as the HF. Tiny little mf'rs that won't fit the DX/Si axles or the b-series axles.
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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Si and DX axles are the same size.
Are Sure it was a DX hatch? My DX hatch had the Si sized knuckles on it stock when I swapped my LS in way back in the day...Unless the hatch had the "DX" emblem on the back of it, then it was a STD. Which shares the same knuckle as the HF. Tiny little mf'rs that won't fit the DX/Si axles or the b-series axles.
ok, your right it was a std, i remember now. i still want to know if there is any difference between si a-arms and other models. there has to be because every one tells me that the ex knuckles should bolt on but mine was way off.

has anyone done this on an si?
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