Here's how I went about it.

I've been slowly updating my fuel system, pump, etc. for the nitrous and eventual turbo install. Here's where we get into the engine bay and fuel rail.

Drained the fuel and took precautions, before I cut the line, and you should do the same.

First you need the adapter from Earls, shown in picture. Cut the line, install the fitting, it's 6 -AN



Heres' what we got rid of and need to replace.



Modified by vectorsolid at 12:02 AM 7/21/2008

 

where the rest of the diy lol?

 

There has been some talk about not putting to much weight on this factory line. You can't simply dangle 5-6" of fittings and filters straight out off the hard line, as it will fatigue and fail. That's not good.

So I spent about 4 hours putting various fittings on, and trying to come up with the cleanest, safest way to go about it. Wanted very little weight on the factory hard line, and wanted some slack in the line to the fuel rail to compensate for engine movement, etc.

Here are some examples of what I didn't do, and you can see why in most of them, but it might give you an idea on how to solve this or some other problem, so here we go.


Look how far all the connectors and filter hang off the filter. It's a recipe for failure. So don't do it.


Here's how it looks with the filter dangling off the fuel rail. Also no good, to much weight hanging there, although I'd say this was a better solution than hanging it off the hard line. But still, not a good solution.






Modified by vectorsolid at 4:17 PM 7/20/2008

 

there we go . lol

 

I'd say this method was a close 3rd place.
Would have worked but just kinda looked funny.


This was my second place idea,
I thought it might be slick to try an old school Mr Gasket fuel block. This actually wasn't a bad idea, and gave 2 extra fuel ports, and gave me a spot to pull fuel for nitrous. What I liked about this was the support given for the factory line. No weight on the factory hard line at all.

 

Ended up doing it this way.
Fuel filter on the firewall, no load on the factory hard line. Keeps the lines completely out of the way for the intake and allows room for engine movement.


Here it is plumbed up, notice how it's pretty much where it wants to be.

 

I was thinking of just drilling 4 holes through the firewall and mounting it that way. Then I thought about why it's called a firewall, and opted not to add more holes to it, so I whipped up a little bracket, welded it to the firewall and mounted the fuel filter to it.



Here it is welded in place.


And finally mounted and done.

 

thats nice. how the bracket holding the filter? zip ties?

 

The fuel rail was basically a bolt on, so I didn't really do much with pictures. But I did kind of trick it out. I drilled and tapped another hole in the top so I'd have a fuel output for my nitrous line. it's the blue fitting. It's 1/8th inch NPT and 4 -AN.

I have a pressure gauge mounted on it so you can use it when you're under the hood. But I want to also drill and tap the end fitting so I can run a remote fuel pressure gauge in the car, that's where the other arrow is pointing.

The question I see a lot is "...what fittings are on the AEM fuel rail?..."

If you're talking about the big ones on the ends, 6 -an port fitting, or an o-ring fitting.

# for 6 -an line
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/100160/10002/-1

# for 8 -an line
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555...10019

I did everything in 6 -an line and fittings.

Hope that helps.



Modified by vectorsolid at 4:19 PM 7/20/2008


Modified by vectorsolid at 4:25 PM 7/20/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4DRmafia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats nice. how the bracket holding the filter? zip ties?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Big zip ties. There's no weight on it at all, so they're not supporting anything, just locating the filter and holding it still.

 

Here's the start to the ZEX nitrous installation. Just a fun pic. Mostly this thread is about getting fuel to the rail, and some fittings and how to go about it. But the nitrous install was the reason I did it. Needed a fuel line for the nitrous.

I hope you find it useful.

 

Find it useful myself! Going to try doing this to my car. Thanks!!!

O BTW next time try posting all your messages in one post...that way everyone doesnt do this...<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4DRmafia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where the rest of the diy lol?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4DRmafia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there we go . lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

So how much $ do you have total in doing your fuel lines???

 

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Yea, but the down side is people that quote the original post, and "repost" all 12 pictures at about a megabyte of bandwidth. That's why I broke it up. The thread will load faster.

Not sure what it cost. But I've bought enough fittings to know that you want to get them from Summit, and get the Summit brand. Best bang for the buck. The small 6 -An fittings are about $3, and those 90 degree ones run about $12. I get the big 20 foot rolls of braided line, eventually you use it on something.

 

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Never thought of it that way...Now if we can just get the idiots to understand that the whole world would be a better place. ha

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Not to bad...so I should be able to do this for under 100 bucks I guess. Looking to clean my engine bay up alittle more. This is added to the list!

 

Awesome, this is one of the best fuel setups I've seen on an ED/EF yet. Wes V had a brilliant idea as well. Thanks

 

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Yea, but the down side is people that quote the original post, and "repost" all 12 pictures at about a megabyte of bandwidth. That's why I broke it up. The thread will load faster.

Not sure what it cost. But I've bought enough fittings to know that you want to get them from Summit, and get the Summit brand. Best bang for the buck. The small 6 -An fittings are about $3, and those 90 degree ones run about $12. I get the big 20 foot rolls of braided line, eventually you use it on something. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What size hose did you use? Is it 6 AN too?

 

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What size hose did you use? Is it 6 AN too?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, 6 -AN

 

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Yes, 6 -AN</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where did you buy the fitting that connects the hard line to the -6 AN hose? and do you need to flare the hard line (stock fuel line)? I seen those fittings on the earls website but they said to use it on 25psi. or less. Is yours a different one?

 

The fitting I'm using on the hard line is the Earls part number 165056. In a similar thread on here, somebody from Earls recommended the part.

On Jegs site, they show it as 50psi.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Earl's/361/165056/10002/-1



Modified by vectorsolid at 12:47 AM 7/29/2008

 

its rated to 50psi? isn't that kind of pushing it? especially since oem fuel pressure is around 40-50psi?

 

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Well, Earls recommended it for that application. I'm not an engineer, but if I'm running something at 40psi, and they say it's fine to 50 psi, I'd say that's right on the mark.

Here's the link to the post. Even videos on how to use the fitting.
https://honda-tech.com/zero...61032

 

Any chance of getting a list of part #'s for your setup?

 

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Pretty straight forward. All in 6 -AN


(1) #165056, Earls hard line fitting
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

(1) Earls filter. has 6 -AN fittings
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

(1) 6 -AN port fitting for the AEM fuel rail.
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/100160/10002/-1

(3) 90 degree hose ends for 6 -AN
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

(1) straight hose end 6 -an
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

(1) piece of 6 -AN braided hose. this is a 6 footer, you'll have some left over.
http://store.summitracing.com/...w=sku

 

Pimped it out a bit.

Made myself a catch can and incorporated a mount for the fuel filter.