Okay I have a 91 crx hf swaped with a 98 cx block and 91 si tranny&ECU...

Been a while already since the swap almost 5 months now...all those time didn't seem liike nothing was going wrong, other then I guess a little bad idle or so at first of starting the car? then afterwards it idle runs normal....

Anyway now one day I went to park it, park it same as every time i had started it. Then that same day that afternoon or so wanted to go somewhere went and start it nothing just die. Well at first it started,crank etc. but it just plunged and die I don't remember well but only light I got was the engine light, no battery light I'm sure....swap was done by a shop so I guess you can say "professionally swapped?"
Only thing that happen every time I tried starting it was clicking/ticking noise and that was it....

Starter,cap, Ignition Module/Control Unit I changed new after seeing that it doesn't start it it still does not start....old starter was working but was starting to go out, modula tested bad...so that why bought modula instead of deciding whole new distributor and now just the ticking/clicking noise after the parts install then after trying for a while just plain nothing
Battery still checked out good like 3 times, not new new but only had it a year thats how old battery is....alternator on engine was changed by previous owner....

I DON'T KNOW what else it can be....I can freaken spend more money on a whole damn new distributor or new battery and replace current thermals or I don't know...a buddy looked at it and said it's something electrical causing starter to not work?....any ideas? anything else I'm missing or need to do that'll take care of it or what cuz I'm out of ideas as to what....LMK TIA




Modified by CR91X at 7:05 PM 6/26/2008

 

whoa. check your alt. fuse under the dash, check your ecu fuse under the hood. after making sure those are ok, try it again and when you click the key into the "on" position (3rd click) listen for the fuel pump to humm, then you will hear a faint click noise when humming stops. If you don't hear the fuel pump humm, and no click, check your main relay.

 

yeah I know. Well I didn't mention it but I did checked the fuses and made sure they're okay...and they look good...

I'll try to listen to the fuel pump.....I'll check the relay again/check everything again and again just to be sure like I'm somewhat doing already

 

Okay so I replace the main relay nothing....but about main relay is 88-91 crx/civic hatchback all the same as long as same volts/pins? cuz I got 3 main relay from the local junk yard tried two and same thing not starting/turning over just clicks....the main relays I picked up looked a bit diff. from my main relay but still pluged in and the new relay looked like my other rex (have two rex but tried switching main relays 1st before picking up newer relays and nothing just clicks then afterwards nothing)

but now it seems I'm getting the battery light? BUt like I said battery checked out 3 times GOOD...and everything works a/c and radio I guess though i didn't put face in....

Okay so alternator was changed by previous owner but how can I tell if it's alternator?sounds wise or whatever? Cuz if I get it want to make sure it'll be the fix to the problem and not just spendong more and more and not be the fix so far done just about everything only thing haven't done is changed terminals/wires or just get new battery and see what happens?....haven't moved any ground wires so can't be ground? But I'm starting to run out of what to do next here and...so yeah any more info let me know...really would like to get her going.....TIA

 

the battery light will be on as long as the engine is not running.

Is your fuel pump even working? Are you getting gas?

Janos

 

well from first time of turning car on, battery light didn't came on....though when battery is dead light will come on but battery is not dead..yeah I think so because I hear what seems to be a humming sound with a bit of gas small<--which was normal from before so yeah? Gas I mean I'm low on it but not empty probably a gallon or two left...let me know??? <--not really just

 

Battery light is on because the alternator isnt turning. It's normal. Does it even crank at all?

Janos

 

No don't think so, so would have to say no and I'm thinking it's most likely the the alternator even though it was changed by previous ownner-said he replaced it...and so just don't really want to unless it is cuz thats $160 with core exchange could be that it just went out...but yeah not turning or nothing just the clicks/ticking sound that's it... and afterwards followed by nothing.....if you try starting it again......

so tomorrow I'm taking out alternator and changing it Moday (nothings open sunday and if it is only early and close early and hope it's that otherwise I don't know what else...

 

im going to agree with the alternator

same prob is happening to my friends DX hatch

we're putting in the new alt tomorrow and going to see if the problem gets solved

 

Okay so before I started to take apart things and take out the alternator I try starting it and couple times it just almost turned over but didn't and after it not turning same crap all over again nothing....so I'm saying most likely alternator but [freak] freaken a bitch to get this crap out from the bay....don't know what the deal is but freaken tight all over and no luck getting it out...started to rain so had to stop for a while but will go back and try again but ****

anyone know how to get an alternator from a 96+(98 civic )or whatever block out from a crx? Or has done it before freaken pain in the A right now...don't know if I'll be able to i'll have to try to remove some other components but

 

have to remove your drivers side axle to pull out old one and put in new one... I've never seen or heard of an alternator causing the engine to not even TRY to start the car... car will start and run with alternator not even pluged in

 

really no alternator and it'll still run? really haven't heard that?..well got it out now so will get it tested tomorrow and see if it's still good or not but beats me I'm all out of ideas.....so if it comes out that the alternators good then I don't freaken know what else...maybe I'll just throw the freaken motor away and swap it to a B series after I get alternator and maybe look into a new battery and it doesn't start still..but battery is freaken mint checked it 3times came out good...so I don't know what else...I mean I searched and read everyone else post about their car not starting and their fix but what the freaker is up with my crap I never touched anything just drove it/park it and then same day went to start it to drive it again just dies....so I don't know will see tomorrow.....

 

I'm experiencing a similar problem, however, in my case ECU doesn't even light up. I'm new to car repair, but i'm assuming that I need to replace the ECU.

Thanks to all responders,

Rick

 

try the ecu fuse under the hood left side.........

 

ok lets break this down.

Job of the alternator - charge the battery while engine is running.

knowing that, ask yourself "what does the alternator have to do with starting the engine?" the answer is NOTHING!

So put down the alternator and take a step back for a moment.

when you attemp to start the engine, you just hear a clicking sound correct? You are positive that you have a good battery? How did you test the battery to prove that its good?

Lets break down the circuit. Your ignition switch is obviosly working if your hearing a clicking sound when starting. Everything has power assuming your battery is good, you replaced the starter (remember, just because the part is new doesnt mean its good). The only thing left is the connection to the starter. Have you tried jumping the starter terminals to see if it cranks on its own? If so check the wiring, thats the only thing left in the circuit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CR91X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay so before I started to take apart things and take out the alternator I try starting it and couple times it just almost turned over but didn't and after it not turning same crap all over again nothing....so I'm saying most likely alternator but [freak] freaken a bitch to get this crap out from the bay....don't know what the deal is but freaken tight all over and no luck getting it out...started to rain so had to stop for a while but will go back and try again but ****

anyone know how to get an alternator from a 96+(98 civic )or whatever block out from a crx? Or has done it before freaken pain in the A right now...don't know if I'll be able to i'll have to try to remove some other components but </TD></TR></TABLE>

when you say "turning over" do you mean the starter attempting to turn the engine over and the engine is not starting or the starter itself barely turns over?

 

far as fuses/relay I guess my main relay was going bad on me so I swicthed it to my other crx a LS swap and it didn't work so main relay was bad so replaced it and took the main relay from LS swap crx to the none running crx and almost start but didn't...but yeah cehecked all my fuses already.....

***Okay Bjorn20:

yeah that's about what I know alternator charges battery....I'm no car expert but know my basics and a few other things here and there average I guess or above average maybe?

the starter attempted to turn the engine over and engine is not starting....starter I'm sure turns if not barely I would say? But yeah it attempted to turn over....

Yes, I know that just cause its new doesn't mean it's good that's why when I got the new starter forgot to get it tested so went back and had it tested and was good and battery was tested 2 different ways and came out good....starter and battery was tested at autozone and with them battery tester meter things...also starter was tested to the battery itself and it turns/works so only means battery is still good and starter works....yeah I hear the clicking.....

WELL will get alternator tested tomorrow just to make sure and then change wires/ terminals and see what happens so far spent almost $300 hope changing alternator if old one is not good will help as well as new wires...

 

Im confused now. Before you were saying you couldnt get the engine to "crank", then it starts/dies immediatly now it doesnt start again?

But anyway, so the engine is now cranking but not starting?

You changed main relays and it didnt solve anything, so what makes you think you had a bad one to begin with?

Do you know how to check for spark? If so make sure your getting spark on all 4 cylinders, hell pull the plugs for a visual (fuel soaked, shorted electrode etc).

 

I'm still confused about wether then engine is spinning when you turn the key or not... does the engine go yidit yidit yidit???

and yeah, check the spark. pull a spark plug, plug the spark plug into the plug wire, then ground the tip of it on something and have a friend attempt to start the car and watch for spark...

 

yes it spining but only like 2-3 and then it doesn't turn over run yes it goes<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AK_CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yidit yidit yidit??? </TD></TR></TABLE>after I put back the alternator and started it my timing belt and everything went/turns but engine doesn't turn over that's all but after trying for a while belt does turn or anything just the yodit yidit sound/clicks that's all

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AK_CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">then ground the tip of it on something and have a friend attempt to start the car and watch for spark...</TD></TR></TABLE>

tried that after took alternator to get tested which came out good 3 times....then after no sparks on plugs...I said freak it and bought a whole damn new distributor and still nothing it clicks/the yidit yidit sound
and that's it nothing...then try starting againg after that and just plain nothing but the starter clicking and no yidit yidit sound....&lt;-------------is what its doing.....

AND went to junk yard for parts for crx scored some parts and this guy looking for crx parts tells me his is doing the same crap not starting...and then came home my next dorr neighbor's 240se dies on him too sounds kind of like my problem...so guess he's got the same **** but WTF is there something going around

anyways nothing and I'm all out of idea so I'm taking abreak til I know what else to do and want to try again....

******As far as MAIN RELAY someone just suggest it and did search on crx cars not starting so I took it and put it to my LS swap crx and it didn't start/work so that's how I know it was bad or think it's bad otherwise the LS swap crx would start right? and I took the LS swap CRX main relay and put it into the one I'm trying to start and it wants to start the yidit crap and etc. but just engine is not starting/turning over....so yeah...

 

anyone else any ideas or anythign else i should/can do..???

Was thinking I should just say [freak] it and and swap that bitoch but a buddy said I should try fixing it first and see what the problem is or it'll probably carry over to motor....but yeah freaken A sucks man.....

 

Have you checked grounds? especially the one on your thermostat housing? Also have you checked to see if you have spark now that you put the new dist. on there?

 

nope so sparks after new distributor which is why engine is not turning over...just yeah yidit sound....my grounds are okay, looks fine...I told peeps maybe it is ground or my wire but they say can't be...sounds more like starter but brand spanking new starter and nothing...i mean I guess it can be ground but why would it be ground if all the sudden it just dies? I guess if the wire got burnt or corroded but my bay is pretty clean doesn't get wet just dusty...?But I guess it is something elcictrical that's why it's not starting but if it's wires/ground will have a buddy who's pretty good with electrical come check it out this Thurs. or so otherwise it'll just be sitting not getting fix or till i mess with it or something but out of ideas

 

just wondering reading all the post of CRX or cars not starting....I'm sure I put the plugs in the right order??because I looked at a firing order and did that but unless that firing orderr I got was wrong can someone post up the firing order of a D series, would motor matter? If not then D series firing order...but motor is 98 CX block.....TIA

 

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