I was looking to purchaser a drag gen 3 turbo on my 2001 itr. I just wanted some feedback on experience with the kit on a type r ? Is anyone running it on stock internals??? can the engine handle it ???? WHen I do purchase it i will probably purchase a 3 psi spring b/c it is a daily driven R. Please help.

 

Count on spending twice as much as you've budgeted. You'll need to build the motor if you want it to last (nomex suit on). A turbo Honda can be tuned to run safe but the vast majority of them that I see blow up eventually.

For better reliability a JRSC or NA is probably the wiser choice.

 

it will run fine , just take the time and do it right. . . yes it will be more money than expected. on stock internals, id say 6-8 psi max for daily driving.
talk to the guys on the Fi forum, you wont get honest unbiased opinions here . good luck

 

A turbo is always better for the engine than the JRSC, cause Turbos have lower intake air. Intercooler is the magic thing. JRSC does produce hot air. I'm alking about Turbo vs JRSC on Honda engines.

Boost with 6-7psi and you are fine and have fun.

 

So if i purchase a 3psi spring and then get a boost controller I will be all right then???

 

well, when a 3 psi spring is available, yes, a boost controller is a nizzzze thing to play with. Greddy Profec B makes the job perfect.

 

they dont make 3 psi spring????

 

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[Modified by Megatron, 11:18 AM 7/15/2002]

 

 

Ask a company who sell DRAG kits, if a 3psi spring is available. I bought my kit from ben@importparts.com nice guy!

I don't get the reply with this stupid pics, whats up with it?


[Modified by austrian type-R, 5:21 PM 7/15/2002]

 

i have a 3-5lb spring for my turbonetics wastegate. part #10113(green)

 

6psi is fine all day long. Bolt on a drag 3 kit and get 200whp instantly.

Tune and get another 40whp.....

Damn, I spent my $ the wrong way.....

 

Umm, just get a .45 bar spring, I belive that is 5.8psi. Perfectly safe and will give you a good amount of power, 3psi is rediculous, not worth the effort.
M

 

0.45 Bar is 6.5psi

 

You're the only person I know of who blew an engine with a JRSC. I've personally known at least 10 people with blown turbo hondas.

My personal opinion on turbos is that they're great if you can afford to build the motor. Otherwise don't bother.

 

supercharger imo arent worth the money , i know dude with an r with every bolton out , along qwith jrsc and nos and i run faster than he does, with about 5 thousand $ less han he spent.

 

oh yea and the pics. . . .
peeps
turbo
R's .
just like the title . . . . someone has tooo much time on their hands, ,im laughing my *** off though

 

If you've spent 5 grand less than he has you're still stock. I've got a JRSC, bigger injectors, standalone (AEM Plug and Play) and all the bolt ons and I haven't spent 5 grand total.

 

Personally I would stay away from putting a turbo on the R. An all motor car in my opinion are so much more reliable and trouble free. Turbo

 

Ok to say you need a built motor for it to last is complete BS, it all has to do with tunning nothing else. And why anyone would want a JRSC is just beyond me, they put the same stress on your motor with no where near the power output.

 

Just make sure you get more then enough fuel and a way to tune it and you will be fine on 6psi all day with stock internals. If you dont go standalone then get some RC 310 injectors, fuel pressure riser, and a V-AFc...along with the FMU and inline fuel pump that already comes with the kit.

200hp will be obtained easily as Black R said and even more once tuned.

 

Which is why you see 10 blown up turbo Hondas for every one blown up JRSC's Honda, they make cause the same amount of stress on the engine...

It's tuning, I know. I guess nobody knows how to tune then because every single one I've ever seen with a turbo has blown up before 20,000 miles.

How many turbo Hondas on a stock block have you seen run for 50,000 miles or more? I see JRSC'd ones every day.

 

he has spend more than 5grand more than me actually . with all his computer fuel **** , super charger, injectors. pistons. . . . . tuning , he prob spent at least a grand or 2 on tuning . trust me , you would have to see this thing to understand. this kid prolly got like 30k into the car. he just put it in thw wrong places. . . . oh yea he payed someone to do the work too , so thats extra money spent there.

 

Sounds to me like the dude doesn't have a clue.

Like I said I've spent 5 grand total and have pretty much the same setup. Of course I've done everything myself with friends and beer.

 

I did a custom kit running 6.5psi and I am having no problems. Only thing was with the install I was getting too much fuel, had to lean it out. Its more expensive to do than a JRSC but I think the long run benefits and adjustability are worth it. I will end up redoing my bottom end to handle more boost eventually. But for me running at 6psi and I drove in a GSR with 8psi. They were very similar in power. One item I would highly recommend is adjustable cam gears. Dial out the overlap and you can get 20-40hp out of them. I am also installing a wideband o2 soon. As far as realiability is concerned as long as you take care of it, don't beat on it, and tune it. It should be as reliable as any other horsepower additive IMO. Good luck.


[Modified by DC2R714, 5:07 PM 7/15/2002]