will I run into any problems? Motor is out of car BTW. My clutch didn't come with a tool damn it and locals want $23 for one. Not willing to spend that much because I just forked over $24 for a ******* pilot bearing for my CM flywheel.

 

get an alingment tool

you can get them from like autozone/checker and when you done, return it for the money. its like loan-a-tool or some ****.

dont be a cheap ***, do it right.


[Modified by KAMiN, 12:21 PM 7/12/2002]

 

OH yeah? good stuff, autozone is about the only parts store with in a 100 mile radius of my parents house.

 

If the engine donest have any fluids, tip it on its pulley side and leave the pressure plate bolts loose. Put the tranny on top until its seated properly. Removed and torque the pressure plate. Your done.

 

Not trying to sound like an ***. But spend the $ and do this right. Its only a few bucks and if its wrong it could be very costly to fix.

 

yea it would make it alot easier and safer with the right tools. i have actually done it before without the tool, but i'm also very picky and **** about things like that so i actually spend alotta time measuring it out making sure it was even on all sides and perfectly lined up before and after i torqued it down. having the alignment tool would make it so much easier plus when u go to put the tranny in, u dont hafta worry about whether it is really lined up or now. if u can get the tool, then its worth it

 

If you dont use the alignment tool you can run into some serious problems. One if its not aligned properly, this will result in uneven wear and premature clutch wear. Worse cause scenerio, and i have seen this many times, especially with clutch kits that have heavy pressure plates and street disc, if not aligned right, the disc can shatter and that just sucks. Like everyone said just do it right, and make doing a things right with you car compulsive

 

I used the alignment tool, autozone didn't have one that fit through the pilot bearing so they just gave me one that fit the disc and I sanded part of it down so it fit into the pilot bearing. Worked out well, only problem is that I need 3 more PP bolts to finish it up.

 

Definately get the alignment tool. I just had a flywheel resurfaced the other day and i needed an alignment tool for a cable tranny, so i asked the guy there and he gave me one for $3. It's the exact same plastic kind as you normally get in an ACT kit.

 

i just used a wooden broom handle. the tranny will let you know if you are aligned properly. if you have the time just get an alignment tool

 

or a screwdriver, if hte tranny goes on without a hitch, then hte clutch plate was centred correctly...

t..

 

The alignment tool at advance auto parts is only like $3.00. I know, i used to work there.

 

All it takes is a finger and an eyeball. Simple. Use a tool if it's handy, but if not, it's really no big thing.

Like the other guy said, if it's misaligned, the tranny won't go back on anyway.

 

a finger and eyeball?? He can just goto the autoparts store and pay 4 bucks for a tool. I mean come on. This is his tranny your talking about. Maybe next time I install pistons and rods I will use a vise grip to compress the rings

 

of all the people dumping on NOT using a alignment tool,

how many have actually done the job?

ive done 5 clutch jobs before and NEVER used an alignment tool.

if the clutch plate isn't aligned properly - you cant put the tranny on.

the only thing this will cause damage to is the clutch plate if you continue to force the tranny on without hte plate aligned properly.

who here continues to force a part that doesnt seem to fit? anyone?

no, so if hte tranny doesnt slide on, the plate is not alligned, if the tranny goes on - then the plate is aligned properly,

i use a snug fitting screwdriver, my eyes and some commonsense...

t..


[Modified by tinkerbell, 4:05 PM 7/15/2002]

 

Sounds like you've never done a clutch job. Really, all it takes is your finger. I've done a few.

 

Working as a tech, I have installed over 50 clutches on honda and acuras many of which were performance applications. If you feel negro rigging and doings things half *** go for it. And you speak of common sense. Common sense would tell a person to goto Autozone and pick up a alignment tool for 5 bucks. I mean if you never done the job before, and you want to give it a shot, I personally will always recommend using the tool. They make it for a reason. You dont screw in phillips screws with a flat head screw driver and you a knife to drill a precise hole. They make these tools for a reason. Here is some information for you for future reference.

Common sense, according to Sir W. Hamilton: (a) ``The complement of those cognitions or convictions which we receive from nature, which all men possess in common, and by which they test the truth of knowledge and the morality of actions.'' (b) ``The faculty of first principles.'' These two are the philosophical significations. (c) ``Such ordinary complement of intelligence, that,if a person be deficient therein, he is accounted mad or foolish.'' (d) When the substantive is emphasized: ``Native practical intelligence, natural prudence, mother wit, tact in behavior, acuteness in the observation of character, in contrast to habits of acquired learning or of speculation.''

 

ok, if i am doing a clutch job, and i dont have/forgot/lost the tool:

commonsense suggests that i test the truth of knowledge , ie the "my way is the only way" method, and find an alternative to the truth of existing knowledge by testing it.

in this way, i find that a finger/screwdriver is relatively substitutable for a $3 alignment tool...

thank you for your unintentional support of the half assed way

t..

PS BUY THE DAMN TOOL!

the only reason i didn't is because i dont think that i need to buy it to install a clutch...

 

can i just add that if the clutch plate is not aligned you can't fit the transmission?

once the transmission is on, the clutch plate is aligned because the transmission shaft runs through the centre of the clutch plate and into the centre of the pilot/spiggot bearing. ie is perfectly centred.

i hope this helps...

t..

 

I am glad you just basicaly confirmed what I have been saying all along.

 

im glad you think i did.

t..

 

Oh see i didnt notice your from the "down under." No wonder you such a dumb ***. You typed P.S get alignment tool. Explain to me how the doesnt support the use of a alignment tool. Everyone here knows your rambling about jack ****. I dont know if they dont have autozones down where ever you are, but there common as are many other auto stores. Dont confuse the guy. The whole statement about the common sense deal, since you twisted it to attempt to fit your warped logic, is that if a tool is made for a specific function, why not use it.

 

my point, fool, is that if you dont have/forgot/lost the tool, it is not essential!

i NEVER said that you shouldnt use the tool.

just that you did not HAVE to use the tool.

so why dont you try reading ALL of a post before commenting?

TIA,

t..

ps it is not "the down under" it is "down under"

 

Apparently everyone, this guy is genius from down under, I mean with a name like tinkerbell why shouldnt anyone trust his judgement.

 

reverting to derogatory comments!

how immature,

you are degrading your fellow Americans...

oh well, to each their own.

t..