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Getting +12v at coil, but no spark

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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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The car is a 1991 Accord LX and the motor is a JDM F22B DOHC. The original motor lost the timing belt and was worn, so I put in the F22B. The F22B distributor had some corrosion, but I used some electrical cleaner. Everything is installed utilizing the Accord wiring harness and stock ECM. I also have a P39 that I've tried, but nothing. I've run an extra ground to the motor thinking I'm not getting enough ground. I swapped all the guts from the 91 Accord to the F22B distributor thinking the distributor may have something bad. The housings are different and I knew the Accord was running until it lost the timing belt so I figure the distributor is a known good distributor. I checked the various modules inside the 'new' distributor. Resistance was around 360 ohms for the CKP, TDC and CYP. The coil is with in spec for the primary and the secondary as well. I tried a new cap and rotor. Nothing. I'm measuring +12v at the secondary on the coil when the key is on. I cut the top two sections in the old cap to measure voltage at the secondary and then to the rotor. Without the rotor in it measures +12v. When I put the rotor in the voltage drops considerably. I've got a variety of readings from 0.5v to 4v. The plugs are new. The wires are nice and old, but I'm using the wires from the 91 Accord since it was running. Oh, I've got continuity from the yel/grn wire back to the ECM. Any thoughts?

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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Getting +12v at coil, but no spark (RIZOBIZERT)

The ECU counts on the ground at the T-stat housing, be sure it got hooked back up after the motor swap.
HondaAccordForum.com has a quick check for coil/ignitor in their DIY forum, I've never done that method but it might be worth a try.
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Old Mar 9, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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I'll check into the forum. I made double sure the ECU is grounded. I'll check it again, but I'm familiar with the ground you are referring to.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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After lots of testing I got a coil. I was sure I tested the coil, but perhaps not. Well, now I have spark, but since I was turning the motor over to search out my problems I flooded the motor. I pulled the plugs, blew things out with some air and tried to get the gas off the plugs. I hooked everything back up. When I went to start it I got a backfire through the intake. In double checking my timing #1 is at about the 10-11 o'clock position on the distributor if you are looking from the passenger fender. Is this correct? I'm pretty sure it is as the timing marks on the flex plate are lining up, I just want to make sure. I see a white mark and a red mark.

Again, thanks in advance for any help.
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Old Mar 10, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Look at the distributor cap. You should see a "A" sign on the cap which is located between 1-3 o'clock. That is the #1. Going clockwise will be 1--3--4--2.

#1 should be the cylinder close to timing belt.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 04:42 AM
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I finally figured things out. I put 91 Accord pickups in the distributor. I think they are different. When I put the pickups from the F22B back in the distributor, I could mount it up as normal with the correct firing order etc. When I had the Accord pickups in the dizzy, I could put the dizzy on, but I could not bolt it down. I had to turn the dizzy between the bolt holes in order to get the timing right. I hope my explanation makes sense. Thanks for the help. So the easy answer is...it wasn't the firing order of the wires, but the pickups themselves.
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