Hey guys. I was searching around eBay and I stumbled upon an idea for my 1995 Prelude.

Has anyone replaced the tweeters with a pair of 4x6s? I'm sure this isn't a new idea, but is this idea even possible? Are there any technical devices that only allow the highs to be filtered to the tweeters? (I think this device is called a crossover?)

Anyways, here are some pictures, because who doesn't like seeing pictures on a forum?


The inner dash being exposed


The terminals that connect the tweeters to the entire audio system.


Impatience FTL (I broke my tweeter so that's why I'm pondering about this 4x6 question)


Clearance is tight, but I don't mind trimming


Plenty o' space...


...I hope


Anyway, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

 

I would think a 3.5 2 way might fit a little easier, but yes this is a great idea because someone broke my stack tweeters while swapping my dash out. No problem though , I was wanting to upgrade the dash speakers anyhow. Let us know what you end up installling in there.

 

Would be loud...er, but that's no problem with me haha. I, as I'm sure others, have thought about putting larger speakers or something back there. I just haven't seen it done yet. I just finally finished installing my rear center and dash center speakers and sounds perfect for me, but I'd like to see how this turns out if you go for it.

 

Look forward to seeing the pics when your finished.

 

post them pics up

 

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I was thinking of going the 3.5" route too, but that would be the easy way out. I guess I'm stubborn, because the Audio section of H-T keeps telling me that 4x6 speakers are a weird size, and thus, they are horrible. But, I'm just too curious to see if 4x6's will work. And, it would be pretty cool to be the first 4th gen Prelude owner to fit 4x6's into that space.

Anyway, if everything follows through (as in if I can get the speakers), I'll definately keep you guys updated.

Thanks for your interest!

 

Any oval shaped speaker(6x9 4x6 etc.) is not going to sound as good as a round speaker. The sound waves produced are not the same as a round driver. This was told to me by a guy I worked with about 12 years ago doing car audio and security installation.

 

Round or oval, coaxials aren't going to sound as good as components.

I've thought of runing a 3way component setup like JL sells for about $300(too rich for me).
Runing the tweet, and the mid driver in the dash, and the 7 in the doors. I hear that would really help with imaging. Because its easier to locate a sound signal in the mid and upper ranges its best to get as much of the spectrum up as possible.

The problem is price if the components, and the amp to run them, and also it can be difficult to get good results from 3 different speakers. Especially if they are seperated by a few feet.

My thoughts on running the 4x6. Try it you might like it. There are such things as 4x6 plates that have a small tweeter in one corner and circular mid in the other part. That could be your top part of the 3 way components.

 

Any updates? I wanna see how this one turns out

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude_93vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any updates? I wanna see how this one turns out</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was able to get the speakers today off eBay, so they should be arriving sometime next week. (A long time from now, I know )


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By the way, I totally agree with you on the money issue. I'm a college student, so money isnt necessarily as abundant as I wish it to be.


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I should mention that these 4x6's are two way speakers, and they are Boston Acoustics. So, quality shouldn't be an issue, I hope. I'm really looking for more of a 'front stage' affect.


I'm just having troubles as to how I'm going to enclose the speaker. I think I might just mount the speakers in place without enclosing it like a sub.

 

Even Boston Acoustics will tell you that coaxials aren't as good as components, but it still might be better then before. What are you going to use to play the midbass and upper bass frequencies?

 

I totally understand that coaxials are frugal alternative to components, so I'm not expecting much.

To be honest, this is a trial and error experiment. If it fails, then I'll be only resolving my tweeter problem.

I have Infinity 6.5's wrapped around, so I should be fine in terms of mid bass. (I have a two channel amp laying around, so I might hook that up to my front 6.5s)Also, I recently purchased a Boston Acoustics 12", so hopefully, things will be sounding prestine.

In essence, I don't know what's going to drive my midbass and upper bass frequences.

 

i had 4" in mine and can place them back for pictures if anyone wants

 

you got it
If you have an amp then your all set. The only other thing to do past that is seal and deaden the doors. Thats more weight though.

 

Update:
It's been awhile, but the speakers finally came in! I installed them, and I can honestly say I'm happy with my purchase.

For about $30, I've managed to fulfill my inner audiophile. The high's from the 4x6's are perfect, and now I have a 'front stage.' Music sounds more clear, crisp, and 'in-your-face', compared to the stock tweeters.

Now for the pictures...


This speaker fits without any modification to the dash
The brown substance in the lower right hand corner is epoxy. I had some lying around, so I used it for my adhesive.


I had to remove sections from the tweeter cover to allow more sound waves to leave the housing and towards the audience.


The reason why I didn't remove all of the plastic in the tweeter cover is because I wanted to retain the cover's shape.


I'm not sure if you notice, but this is not the OEM tweeter cover fabric. When I removed the plastic chunks, there was no way to salvage the original fabric. So I went to my local fabric store, picked up some light (as in not dense) black fabric to reupholster the covers. It looks fairly OEM to me


I'm an idiot.
I totally forgot to measure the dimensions for the driver side. I thought dimensions on the passenger side would be the same.
I was wrong.
There is a metal container in the back. I guess it's for the OLED display. Anyway, this module had to be pushed back to allow ample room for the speaker.


In the end, I managed.


Again, I had to remove some plastic to allow more sound waves to leave the area.


This shows that becase I only removed sections of the plastic, the tweeter cover upholds its shape. If I removed all of the plastic, the cover's shape would give in like a tawainese hooker (stab at my ex heh heh heh)


But, because I didn't remove all of the plastic, it looks clean

OEM FTMFW

 

I did the same thing. The only problem I ran into is that if you have the EL gauges, the silver converter box is in the way of the new (bigger) speaker. It took some cutting to get it to fit right...

 

You will need base blockers hooked up to tweeters.

 

That's real nice. I found my next project!

 

hmmm.. i might have to try this since i only have the rears and a sub hooked up right now. Are you still running stocks in the door panels?

 

Bass blockers aren't needed if you run a set a components in the front, the external crossover will take care of everything.

 

That looks pretty good. Nice idea. Are you running a door speaker?

 

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I couldn't agree with you more. That box was a large obstacle, but luckily, I was able to manage.


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Some advice I would pass on to you would be to get a pair of 4x6's with a depth of NO MORE THAN 2 inches. The passenger side easily accommodates the speaker. However, if you have the EL gauges, then there is barely enough room for the speaker on the driver side because of the metal module, which you can see in one pictures. Therefore, you will need to do some slight modification to the metal module (You want to push it back more into the dash, so that you can fit the speaker in)

Other than that, get a reputable brand of speakers, and you'll be good to go.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drbenne &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you still running stocks in the door panels?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by M@ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks pretty good. Nice idea. Are you running a door speaker?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I am not running stock speakers in the door panels. I've upgraded my door and rear speakers to Infinity Reference 6.5s. They aren't the Kappas, but they serve me well.


Thanks for the compliments guys.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec91740 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, I am not running stock speakers in the door panels. I've upgraded my door and rear speakers to Infinity Reference 6.5s. They aren't the Kappas, but they serve me well.


Thanks for the compliments guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>


did you have any clearance issues because when i took off my door panel it looked like a pretty tight fit. I have those same infinity's for my rear and i had a hard time getting it to fit there.

 

What amp are you using? If you don't have one that along with sealing the doors with dyna-mate will make a big difference too.

 

^ Thats my setup...

PC:
1. Gateway Laptop ( 1.8 Athlon, 2 GIG MEM, 80 GIG HDD )
2. D-Link Wireless N PCMCIA Card
3. D-Link Bluetooth Adapter
4. Seagate 100 GIG External HDD
5. Creative SB Live 5.1 External USB Soundcard

Screen:
1. Lilliput 7” VGA Touchscreen 629GL-70NP
2. Fabricated into double-din.

Audio:
1. 4 Pioneer 6-1/2" 4-Way Car Speakers [280 watts peak power (50 watts RMS)]
2. 2 Infinity 3-1/2" 2-Way Car Speakers [75 watts peak power (25 watts RMS)]
3. Alpine V-Power 75W MOSFET 4 Chan. Amp with Adj. Crossover [MRP-F250]
4. Rockford Fosgate 4-Gauge Amplifier Installation Kit with Interconnect
5. Extra 50’ Rockford Fosgate 16 Gauge Speaker Wire
6. 2 Gold Plated Mini to RCA Y Cables

PSU:
1. Carnetix CNX-P1900 Ver. 2.2 Dual Output 140 Watt 12V DC-DC Regulator
2. Carnetix CNX-P5V 15 Watt +5V Regulator