2000 GSR
Tein Flex Coilovers
Falken rt615

I was wondering which would be better for street use with occasional auto cross events.

this

http://weaksauceparts.com/stor...age=1

or this

http://www.beaksproducts.com/DC_Quick_Swap.htm

Also, could I just add the ASR subframe brace to the Beaks kit.

What are the pros and cons of each?

 

you CANNOT ALSO ADD the beaks kit to the asr brace. i dont know where you got that idea.

anyways, you are comparing a 22mm bar to a 24mm bar, thats already a big difference. that all depends on what you are trying to achieve, handling wise.

i will tell you this however...that oem 22mm bar will rip your subframe out along with the beaks kit. so put a few more pennies together and get the asr brace. then you will be able to use a variety of sway bars of your desired size, but atleast you will not have to worry about your subframe tearing out.

 

Is the ASR kit still available with the 22 mm OEM ITR bar, or is it only available with the 24mm bar now?

Thanks

 

My subframe didnt tear out with my Beaks kit using a 22mm swaybar.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carrnut21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the ASR kit still available with the 22 mm OEM ITR bar, or is it only available with the 24mm bar now?

Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes both kits are still available. If its for the street mostly the 22mm kit with subframe support is the way to go. The 24mm is more for track use

 

ok cool I will have to pick one up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CerealWars &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My subframe didnt tear out with my Beaks kit using a 22mm swaybar. </TD></TR></TABLE>

not all people drive their cars in the same manner.

 

so the beaks kit with the 22mm bar w/ or w/o the brace is the suggested application for street use? just confirming

 

If you have a honda, and its not an Si or type r...

the beaks kit, is known to rip out your subframe if you use any bar over 19mm or so...

so, if you plan on running a 10-13mm bar on an non si, type r.. you will be fine.

but if you plan on going over 13mm i suggest you beef up your subframe with a big hunk of metal,

asr brace, never known to fail.. if thats too much comptech has a brace/bar system, and there are a few more companies out there...there even is a guy here on ht, who designed his own brace...

imo, beaks... is known to fail... so don't buy something with known issues...

 

Love my beaks kit.

using jdm r 23mm sway bar with oem d brakets and bushings. On a 98 Integra GS

Best mod I have ever done to car. Using street tires 205 45 16,H&R race springs,tokico illuminas and have time attack a couple of times with no problems what so ever. Check the bolts and frame the other day looks perfect. using blox endlinks too.

No problems her for a street setup and couple events a year

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=192610 more info


Modified by volcom40street2 at 1:35 AM 1/25/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beav &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you CANNOT ALSO ADD the beaks kit to the asr brace. i dont know where you got that idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the beaks lower arm bar can be added tho


credit: 95jdmdc4 for the picture

i had the beaks srk w/ jdm itr sway mounted on my db for a while. no tearouts, and everything was fine. But I upgraded to the ASR because it acts as a subframe reinforcer and lower arm bar and its bling. worth the money

Modified by Maui Built at 3:01 PM 1/25/2008


Modified by Maui Built at 3:05 PM 1/25/2008

 

comptech.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bpr0422 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have a honda, and its not an Si or type r...

the beaks kit, is known to rip out your subframe if you use any bar over 19mm or so...

so, if you plan on running a 10-13mm bar on an non si, type r.. you will be fine.

but if you plan on going over 13mm i suggest you beef up your subframe with a big hunk of metal,

asr brace, never known to fail.. if thats too much comptech has a brace/bar system, and there are a few more companies out there...there even is a guy here on ht, who designed his own brace...

imo, beaks... is known to fail... so don't buy something with known issues...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Civic Si does not have a reinforced subframe like the ITR and CTR. Using any rear sway bar larger than 13mm without an A-Spec Racing plate kit on a '99-00 Civic Si may result in subframe tear-out, since it uses the same subframe as non-Si models.

 

i have the suspension techniques speedtech setup which is a SRB with a 22mm rear bar, i like it but im starting to think its too flashy being bright red

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, could I just add the ASR subframe brace to the Beaks kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Maui Built &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the beaks lower arm bar can be added tho </TD></TR></TABLE>


Using a Beaks kit/bar/whatever in addition to the ASR or Comptech bar is fairly unnecessary and useless.

To each his own though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Civic Si does not have a reinforced subframe like the ITR and CTR. Using any rear sway bar larger than 13mm without an A-Spec Racing plate kit on a '99-00 Civic Si may result in subframe tear-out, since it uses the same subframe as non-Si models.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for clearing that up... i never owned an si, so i didn't really know.. shoud've said that, in the first place.

 

He's right and you don't know what your're talking about. It is totally unnecessary to run the beaks srk along with the asr brace. I much rather prefer the asr brace over the beaks kit. The beaks kit still puts alot of the sway bar load onto that particular point where the asr can distribute that thru out the plate. My friend ripped his subframe on his 00 civic coupe using the beaks kit/itr 22mm rsb after 6 months with hard driving. I run the asr/itr22 combo as well and its one of the best suspension mod ever.

BTW, the only beaks product you can put on with the asr brace is the beaks lower tie bar. Again its not necessary but it looks good.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by volcom40street2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your yelling and you have no idea what your talking about, this is why I love honda-tech. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicSiRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He's right and you don't know what your're talking about. It is totally unnecessary to run the beaks srk along with the asr brace. I much rather prefer the asr brace over the beaks kit. The beaks kit still puts alot of the sway bar load onto that particular point where the asr can distribute that thru out the plate. My friend ripped his subframe on his 00 civic coupe using the beaks kit/itr 22mm rsb after 6 months with hard driving. I run the asr/itr22 combo as well and its one of the best suspension mod ever.

BTW, the only beaks product you can put on with the asr brace is the beaks lower tie bar. Again its not necessary but it looks good.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry I thought he was talking about the lower tie bar. Im an idiot.

 

ASR/ITR bar all day...every day.

 

A bit of a jack here;
So bigger isnt better with sway bars? I want to get an ASR brace and was deciding on which rear sway bar to go with (93 honda civic sedan for DD and occasional track). Was banking on the 24mm - but I see some places sell 32mm's? What do you guys suggest?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SupaMonkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A bit of a jack here;
So bigger isnt better with sway bars? I want to get an ASR brace and was deciding on which rear sway bar to go with (93 honda civic sedan for DD and occasional track). Was banking on the 24mm - but I see some places sell 32mm's? What do you guys suggest?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bigger isn't always better.

What does "occasional track" encompass? What spring rates are you running?

 

I am currently on stock suspension (with just some aftermarket springs). This is also one of the next items to go; plan on getting the Skunk2 Pro-C's which are 10k/8k if memory serves me correctly.

"Occasional track" means once a month perhaps, though I always drive quite rough on the street as well late at night when its deserted.

 

Stick with the 24mm rear bar or smaller. I'd actually suggest a 22mm ITR rear bar.

 

Why would you suggest the 22mm and not the Type R 23mm or ASR 24mm?

 

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