Timing Issue with D15B8/D16Y8 Mini Me
Car has a miss/stutter in low revs, and not a ton of power, Dizzy is a non-vtec B8 Dizzy *Bolts right to the Y8 head, but was told this would be fine*, Mechanical timing is dead on, I've replaced the coil/cap/rotor/plugs/wires and the problem remains
My IAT is mounted off a Vac Line also, but I was told this shouldn't cause problems like this, any other input?
I've heard rumors that I have to get an adj. Cam gear because of the setup, and because my head has been milled.
My IAT is mounted off a Vac Line also, but I was told this shouldn't cause problems like this, any other input?
I've heard rumors that I have to get an adj. Cam gear because of the setup, and because my head has been milled.
im pretty sure when u mix a 1.5 bottom with a 1.6 top u need a adjustable cam gear. because of diff deck height or something. i built a few of them using z6 head and i used a cam.. especially if its decked . it may look close but its usually off 1/2 of a tooth which u cant adjust without the cam
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97grnrs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pretty sure when u mix a 1.5 bottom with a 1.6 top u need a adjustable cam gear. because of diff deck height or something. i built a few of them using z6 head and i used a cam.. especially if its decked . it may look close but its usually off 1/2 of a tooth which u cant adjust without the cam </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what I'm leaning toward, but noone has any definitive proof on this.
Thats what I'm leaning toward, but noone has any definitive proof on this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kiddcarbuff »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i woulda tried to find a b7 block, the b8 has tiny *** pistons and i think i rread in the mini me faq that it wasnt a good choice</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just so you know, the D15B7 and D15B8 are the exact same block Sans the 8 valve pistons in the D15B8 *Which means you CANNOT do a MiniMe swap on it*
My B8 is one of the early-year oddballs that came with 4 valve pistons, meaning it is 100% identical to B7's
Just so you know, the D15B7 and D15B8 are the exact same block Sans the 8 valve pistons in the D15B8 *Which means you CANNOT do a MiniMe swap on it*
My B8 is one of the early-year oddballs that came with 4 valve pistons, meaning it is 100% identical to B7's
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97grnrs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did a mini me on the 8 valve block once and had no clearance problems. the two indents per piston only . </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats VERY odd, I've been told there are interferance issues with that.
Thats VERY odd, I've been told there are interferance issues with that.
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im having timing issues with my mini me
i have a jdm d15 vtec block and d16y8 head
cant seem to get it timed.
also what IM u using?
y8 or the d15b8 one?
so i have to get an adjustable cam gear?
i have a jdm d15 vtec block and d16y8 head
cant seem to get it timed.
also what IM u using?
y8 or the d15b8 one?
so i have to get an adjustable cam gear?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-Ty [EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]im having timing issues with my mini me
i have a jdm d15 vtec block and d16y8 head
cant seem to get it timed.
also what IM u using?
y8 or the d15b8 one?
so i have to get an adjustable cam gear?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm using a D16Y8 Intake Manifold *OEM Honda one, Manual with the IACV*
and I suspect Thats what we may both need.
D15B8 Intake manifold is the size of a lawn mowers, so I threw mine out, I had a B7 as a tested, which also works.
i have a jdm d15 vtec block and d16y8 head
cant seem to get it timed.
also what IM u using?
y8 or the d15b8 one?
so i have to get an adjustable cam gear?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm using a D16Y8 Intake Manifold *OEM Honda one, Manual with the IACV*
and I suspect Thats what we may both need.
D15B8 Intake manifold is the size of a lawn mowers, so I threw mine out, I had a B7 as a tested, which also works.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-Ty [EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]damn it lol
i might as well jus use a z6 block then</TD></TR></TABLE>
Definatly not, the B7/B8 block generates a MUCH higher CR than a normal Z6 block does, and a AEM gear is only $60ish shipped off Fleabay.
i might as well jus use a z6 block then</TD></TR></TABLE>
Definatly not, the B7/B8 block generates a MUCH higher CR than a normal Z6 block does, and a AEM gear is only $60ish shipped off Fleabay.
u can find a cheaper cam off ebay. .i forget the name but i used it before. and ya u both need the cam if u want it timed exactly right. anytime u mix 1.5 and 1.6 heads and blocks u need one.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black-Ty [EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]am i gonna need to chip my p28 to handle the higher CR?</TD></TR></TABLE>
To my understanding if you get it chipped you can make better use out of it, but really just running better fuel is all you need.
To my understanding if you get it chipped you can make better use out of it, but really just running better fuel is all you need.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97grnrs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think he means goin from 89 octane to higher </TD></TR></TABLE>
bingo, higher octane.
bingo, higher octane.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97grnrs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did a mini me on the 8 valve block once and had no clearance problems. the two indents per piston only . </TD></TR></TABLE>
92-93 B8's = pair of valve reliefs
94-95 B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut.
92-93 B8's = pair of valve reliefs
94-95 B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxpsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
92-93 B8's = pair of valve reliefs
94-95 B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong Chief
Here's a picture of my D15B8 block, you got it backwards.

The rumor was that honda used left over pistons from the D15B2 *I think thats what it was* for the earlier models of CX's untill they ran out.
92-93 B8's = pair of valve reliefs
94-95 B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong Chief
Here's a picture of my D15B8 block, you got it backwards.

The rumor was that honda used left over pistons from the D15B2 *I think thats what it was* for the earlier models of CX's untill they ran out.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxpsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
92-93 B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut.
94-95 B8's = pair of valve reliefs</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like that?
92-93 B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut.
94-95 B8's = pair of valve reliefs</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like that?
To my understanding
92- (to Some point in 93)B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut.
94-95 B8's = pair of valve reliefs
since I know mine was made mid-year 92, and some people with 93's do and some don't have the 4 valve reliefs.
once they ran out of the 4 valve pistons they started using just 2 valve pistons.
Also all models of 92 civic has wiring for Vtec and 4 wire O2's at the Shock-Tower to the ECU, unlike 93+ which you have to wire all the way to the ECU.
92- (to Some point in 93)B8's = 4 valve reliefs cut.
94-95 B8's = pair of valve reliefs
since I know mine was made mid-year 92, and some people with 93's do and some don't have the 4 valve reliefs.
once they ran out of the 4 valve pistons they started using just 2 valve pistons.
Also all models of 92 civic has wiring for Vtec and 4 wire O2's at the Shock-Tower to the ECU, unlike 93+ which you have to wire all the way to the ECU.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97grnrs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did it using the block with only 2 valve reliefs per piston. it still cleared. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I still wonder about that...
Was it a Vtec head?
I still wonder about that...
Was it a Vtec head?
yes. i know for a fact because it was my 2nd honda i ever had. 93 cx civic. 8V engine. block had only two indents per piston. i put a z6 head on it. no problems clearing, may have been real close but never hit.


