ok so heres the deal. let me know if you all have any other suggestions or changes you think i should make.

Block

darton sleeved h22a4 block
endyn oil pump
weisco 11.5 pistons but with stroke 13.1 or more
(dont ask why im running mahle in a sleeved block. i took a chance and bought a block from a guy for 150.00 bc it looked sleeved but he obviously didnt know. but i will be fine running the mahle pistons made for the frm sleeves in the wet iron sleeves)
f22 rods..floating wrist pins
keeping balance shaft

Head

mild port n polish
crower cams stage 1
crower valves, retainers, springs
stock IM
short ran cold air intake
cheap header
stock injectors
stock TB
aem adjustable cam gears

Tranny
m2b4 final drive

full exhaust...thinking about straight pipe the cat.
turbo tune in greensboro, nc will be doing my tuning with crome.

so yea i think thats about it. i really want to get some skunk pro 2s or 3s but i dont know. i also want someone to confirm that i will be okay running the mahle pistons made for frm sleeves in the iron sleeves. let me know if you guys have any things that you would different or any other suggestions. its going to be my daily driver so keep that in mind. thanks


Modified by h23vtecpowered at 6:02 PM 11/25/2007


Modified by h23vtecpowered at 6:02 PM 11/25/2007

 

pistons made for FRM are not designed for iron walls. The skirt materials are different.

take the block to Brad (RLZ Engineering) and ask him what the cylinder walls are composed of.

with 11.5 pistons, h23 crank and h23 rods....your compression is going to be a good bit higher than 12.1

i think you have a good bit of rethinking to do if you want this motor to make good power.

 

i know what the block is composed of. heres the pic of it.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2142914

so i can NOT use the mahle pistons for frm sleeves in the iron sleeved block. matt said id be fine but i thought id double check. and i said 12.1 or higher. i knew it would be atleast 12.1 but wasnt sure how much more

 

i dont know for sure, but why would you even risk it when there are other piston selections that are made to run with iron cylinder walls.

 

bc i already have them...i just got finished assembling the bottom end.

 

unless you know of a set reasonable priced.

 

what is the bore size? was the block bored to meet X piston to wall clearance with those mahle pistons? or were those something you picked up after the purchase of the block?

 

well i got the block and it was std bore. had some scars so i got it bored to to fit the pistons. they are .20 over.

 

did you measure your ring gap?

 

yea and plastic gauged everything

 

just curious, what was the ring gap for the top ring?

 

did some research last night and it looks like it may not work but who knows. im not willing to be the dummy to try it. anyone know where i can get some used or new pistons 11.5 compression or higher and .20 over

 

any suggestions

 

ok so i finally found some weisco pistons. here they are. got them for 300.00

they are .40 over and 11.5.1. what compression is that going to put me at. i need to make sure i can get by with 93 octane.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...8.lVI

 

EFF that son...put some 89mm pistons in their yo

 

so you are going to rebore to 88mm?

 

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i want to leave some left just incase i have any problems in the future and have to get it bored again and i can still get by without resleeving. you never know what will happen especially with my luck.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you are going to rebore to 88mm?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea when i get the pistons i will get the machine to bore it out and match them to the pistons. any ideas on the compression

 

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yea when i get the pistons i will get the machine to bore it out and match them to the pistons. any ideas on the compression </TD></TR></TABLE>
where you gonna get that machine from yo?

 

machine shop lamo

 

i have a question....<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h23vtecpowered &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so heres the deal. let me know if you all have any other suggestions or changes you think i should make.

Block

darton sleeved h22a4 block
endyn oil pump
mahle 11.5 pistons but with stroke 12.1 or more
(dont ask why im running mahle in a sleeved block. i took a chance and bought a block from a guy for 150.00 bc it looked sleeved but he obviously didnt know. but i will be fine running the mahle pistons made for the frm sleeves in the wet iron sleeves)
f22 rods..floating wrist pins
keeping balance shaft

Head

mild port n polish
crower cams stage 2
crower valves, retainers, springs
stock IM
short ran cold air intake
cheap header
stock injectors
stock TB
aem adjustable cam gears

Tranny
m2b4 final drive

full exhaust...thinking about straight pipe the cat.
turbo tune in greensboro, nc will be doing my tuning with crome.

so yea i think thats about it. i really want to get some skunk pro 2s or 3s but i dont know. i also want someone to confirm that i will be okay running the mahle pistons made for frm sleeves in the iron sleeves. let me know if you guys have any things that you would different or any other suggestions. its going to be my daily driver so keep that in mind. thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

you do realize there is no way your using an f22/h23 crank in an h22a4 block right? and are you buying new injectors?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by my9thtry &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a question....

you do realize there is no way your using an f22/h23 crank in an h22a4 block right? and are you buying new injectors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you do realize that the 97 block has 50mm mains thus i am using a h23 crank

 

should i upgrade to some dsm 450s

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h23vtecpowered &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">machine shop lamo</TD></TR></TABLE>

you know its lmao right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h23vtecpowered &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">should i upgrade to some dsm 450s</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would go with a "better" injector

 

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you know its lmao right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ill give you that one since you got me a co-op