Dual Oil lines for LS/Vtec
I read somewhere that running two oil lines when doing an LS Vtec will help with the wear and tear that happens to your cams and valve train. I was wondering if anyone has done this or where you would run this second oil line to?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jeanious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I read somewhere that running two oil lines when doing an LS Vtec will help with the wear and tear that happens to your cams and valve train. I was wondering if anyone has done this or where you would run this second oil line to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny, I was just reading about running an LS/VTEC-style oil supply line for DOHC VTEC heads. I haven't heard anything about running dual lines though. I can see why you'd want to though, the LS/VTEC and CRV/VTEC setups don't utilize the stock oil supply in the VTEC head, you have to plug it:

The standard LS/VTEC-type oil supply line is run to this hole on the VTEC head:

I'm not sitting in front of a DOHC VTEC head right now, but maybe there's another hole that can be utilized for another oil supply line?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D0-Kid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">YES the extra oil up top helps go to theoldone .com or endyn look there all his engines use two lines even if its v-tec to begin with
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Are you sure about this man? I looked on Larry's site and couldn't find anything about running dual lines. I did find this however:
http://www.theoldone.com/compo...t.htm
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During the past year, we've experienced extreme rocker arm and camshaft lobe failures on a number of Honda VTEC engines running non-stock valvetrains. Exotic coatings solved the problems in most instances, however, we've found that we could eliminate a large amount of wear by simply plumbing more oil to the head with an external -6 line (in the same fashion as LS-VTEC enthusiasts have for years).
We're now equipping all the VTEC engines we build with the external line, as lengthy testing has shown that additional oil volume in the head dramatically reduces both cam and rocker wear, and it also extends valve spring life through better cooling.
We've used a number of adaptors placed between the block and filter as filtered oil sources over the years with excellent results.....until the adaptor fitting has broken from vibration, jettisoning the oil filter, and the engine's life blood. Such failures can be catastrophic mechanically, as well as extremely dangerous when the vehicle's tires are sprayed with oil.
Witnessing an adapter fitting break (ejecting the filter from the running engine) on our dyno, one of our engine customers pleaded with us to redesign the kit. We responded by using a higher strength steel for the adapter fitting, as well as a higher-grade aluminum for the "donut", and we're now offering the kit for sale.
The basic plumbing kit comes complete with silver-anodized aluminum components, all the necessary fittings / and a stainless plug, as well as extremely high-quality O and X-rings rated to operating temperatures of 250+ degrees, priced at $89.95 + shipping.
The kit complete with high-pressure stainless braided -6 line using high quality AN terminations (one straight and one 45 degree swivel) is priced at $164.95 + shipping.
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Funny, I was just reading about running an LS/VTEC-style oil supply line for DOHC VTEC heads. I haven't heard anything about running dual lines though. I can see why you'd want to though, the LS/VTEC and CRV/VTEC setups don't utilize the stock oil supply in the VTEC head, you have to plug it:

The standard LS/VTEC-type oil supply line is run to this hole on the VTEC head:

I'm not sitting in front of a DOHC VTEC head right now, but maybe there's another hole that can be utilized for another oil supply line?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D0-Kid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">YES the extra oil up top helps go to theoldone .com or endyn look there all his engines use two lines even if its v-tec to begin with
</TD></TR></TABLE>Are you sure about this man? I looked on Larry's site and couldn't find anything about running dual lines. I did find this however:
http://www.theoldone.com/compo...t.htm
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During the past year, we've experienced extreme rocker arm and camshaft lobe failures on a number of Honda VTEC engines running non-stock valvetrains. Exotic coatings solved the problems in most instances, however, we've found that we could eliminate a large amount of wear by simply plumbing more oil to the head with an external -6 line (in the same fashion as LS-VTEC enthusiasts have for years).
We're now equipping all the VTEC engines we build with the external line, as lengthy testing has shown that additional oil volume in the head dramatically reduces both cam and rocker wear, and it also extends valve spring life through better cooling.
We've used a number of adaptors placed between the block and filter as filtered oil sources over the years with excellent results.....until the adaptor fitting has broken from vibration, jettisoning the oil filter, and the engine's life blood. Such failures can be catastrophic mechanically, as well as extremely dangerous when the vehicle's tires are sprayed with oil.
Witnessing an adapter fitting break (ejecting the filter from the running engine) on our dyno, one of our engine customers pleaded with us to redesign the kit. We responded by using a higher strength steel for the adapter fitting, as well as a higher-grade aluminum for the "donut", and we're now offering the kit for sale.
The basic plumbing kit comes complete with silver-anodized aluminum components, all the necessary fittings / and a stainless plug, as well as extremely high-quality O and X-rings rated to operating temperatures of 250+ degrees, priced at $89.95 + shipping.
The kit complete with high-pressure stainless braided -6 line using high quality AN terminations (one straight and one 45 degree swivel) is priced at $164.95 + shipping.
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yes im sure , says so in you post aswell . As for where the lines go one is the sandwich plate is from the block and they both are tapped into the head im not sure where exactly to the tee though but theres plenty of poeple that know
Yes of course I know where they are coming from and that can be a sandwich plate or T fitting out the back of the block. I am trying to figure out, where on the Head does the other line go.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jeanious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes of course I know where they are coming from and that can be a sandwich plate or T fitting out the back of the block. I am trying to figure out, where on the Head does the other line go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
One is from the back of the head like in the photo above and the other is from the side (bottom left corner, dizzy side). You should see a little allen plug.
One is from the back of the head like in the photo above and the other is from the side (bottom left corner, dizzy side). You should see a little allen plug.
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