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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Default vafc sensor check... what does yours say?

There are three values there for voltages being read...

What are they/ should they be?

I'm assuming they're reading off the sensors, but which one reads which and why?

Check with motor off and key in acc position, and again with car idling.....


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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I am not to sure what they are exactly supposed to be. But here are the voltages I get with my car.

Car Off
Pressure: 2.930 +/- .005
Throttle: .475 +/- .005
CDS: 2.050 +/- .005

Car On
Pressure: .990 +/- .020
Throttle: .485 +/- .005
CDS: 2.500 +/- .005

Im am pretty sure that pressue is reading from the map sensor, throttle is from the TPS, and CDS is the display output for the screen. Those are the readings my car gives, and it seems to run fine. Are you having problems with yours?
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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You need to check the differences between WOT and 0% throttle. Those are the only two things that matter for sensor check.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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.....sorry, I forgot to mention with motor off, but with key in acc and wot vs. off throttle.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 10:38 AM
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ok, with the car in acc and motor off:

Pres = 2.79

Thrt = .410 (pressing pedal to wot = 4.485)

CDS = 5.010


With the car idling:

Pres = 1.2-1.5

Thrt = .1-1.2 (4.3 at wot)

CDS = 4.985


Anyone else?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 05:56 PM
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With the car idling:

Pres = 1.2-1.5

Thrt = .1-1.2 (4.3 at wot)
You should be about .94 Volts (according to Honda) at idle. Since you are at about 1.2-1.5 I would assume that your rings and/or valves are not sealing properly. Do a valve adjustment and see if that make a difference. However, if that does not help, time for a rebuild.

Throttle should be a little under (.025V) .5 Volts at idle but you can adjust that.


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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 05:56 PM
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Let me check mine and I will get back to you later tonight.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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Car off
Pres - 2.85
Thrt - 0.475
CDS - 4.450

Car on - idle
Pres - .95
Thrt - .75
CDS - 4.405
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 08:27 PM
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You should be about .94 Volts (according to Honda) at idle. Since you are at about 1.2-1.5 I would assume that your rings and/or valves are not sealing properly. Do a valve adjustment and see if that make a difference. However, if that does not help, time for a rebuild.

Throttle should be a little under (.025V) .5 Volts at idle but you can adjust that.


[Modified by Centripetal, 2:58 AM 6/24/2002]

Maybe that pressure reading is due to my spec B's.

I'm due for a valve lash adjustment though. After that, I'll do a compression test and leakdown test. 13k on this almost new motor..... =
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Car in acc and motor off:
Pres = 2.920
Thrt = .480 (pressing pedal to wot = 4.615)
CDS = 3.940

With the car idling:
Pres = 0.85-0.93
Thrt = 0.480 (did not check @ wot)
CDS = 3.805


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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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With the car idling:

Pres = 1.2-1.5

You should be about .94 Volts (according to Honda) at idle. Since you are at about 1.2-1.5 I would assume that your rings and/or valves are not sealing properly. Do a valve adjustment and see if that make a difference. However, if that does not help, time for a rebuild.

Throttle should be a little under (.025V) .5 Volts at idle but you can adjust that.
I just finished soldering and installed my harness/vafc. Upon turning the car on, I found that the Pressure = .50-.70, nowhere near .94V as it should be. All connections are good. Also, my throttle % reading is off. It stays at 0 most of the time and moves upward only when a significant change is % is realized, then returns to zero.

I'm stumped. Can anyone help, or give me some clues as to what to do next?
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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Ken... my PM isnt working...call me ASAP.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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With the car idling:

Pres = 1.2-1.5

You should be about .94 Volts (according to Honda) at idle. Since you are at about 1.2-1.5 I would assume that your rings and/or valves are not sealing properly. Do a valve adjustment and see if that make a difference. However, if that does not help, time for a rebuild.

Throttle should be a little under (.025V) .5 Volts at idle but you can adjust that.


I just finished soldering and installed my harness/vafc. Upon turning the car on, I found that the Pressure = .50-.70, nowhere near .94V as it should be. All connections are good. Also, my throttle % reading is off. It stays at 0 most of the time and moves upward only when a significant change is % is realized, then returns to zero.

I'm stumped. Can anyone help, or give me some clues as to what to do next?
This is a stupid question, but are you sure you have the right wires connected to the right pins on the harness? Which one did you use for your install? (Apexi's map, ie WH1, WH2, WH3, etc.)
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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All connections are correct. I'm really very fed up with this thing. Got a CEL last night while driving down the street and ended up taking out the field harness and vafc right there and moving on. It was WAY too cold to check the CEL, but I suspect it is because of a bad connection or something similar.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Default Re: vafc sensor check... what does yours say? (Chris N)

only willards looks right.
why are all your TPS readings different when the engine is on
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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That really sucks to hear Chris...Let us know what is going on.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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I"m seriously considering Hondata at this point. Not just because I'm having trouble hooking the vafc up, but it certainly is contributing to the idea. All this work, for what? The time I'll spend tuning (and the tuning money, i can't wait ), soldering/hooking this thing up and tuning more, I could have a much better engine management system.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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I thought you soldered EVERYTHING together?
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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Soldered everything to my field's harness. Who knows what is wrong. I can't get a straight answer anywhere.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Which source did you use to connect the wires? Maybe they are connected wrong. http://www.apexi-usa.com has an updated manual for 00-01 ITR's
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Wires are connected correctly.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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What source did you use to connect the wires. 97-98 wiring differ from the 00-01. I'm just taking a stab at anything because I have no clue what could be wrong with your install.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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I used 00-01 diagram. I also checked everything with the '00 helms update with the ecm/pcm pin locations, since I was using the field vtec harness. I'm sure everything is in there ok.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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No clue sorry man. Let us know what the CEL is.


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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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A shot in the dark from audio/security install troubleshooting woes...

Do you have a multimeter handy? If so, see if you can get a voltage reading on those wires that seem to be sending the wrong signals. Also...try a different ground. Those sound like such easy things...but I won't even begin to count how many times those have been the culprits when installing things on various cars in my life.

I'll probably install mine this weekend...hopefully.
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