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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Default 2point6's current mods... in search of 12's NA

This is what I have:
Car Type:
1990 Honda Accord LX 4dr

Engine Type:
1993 Honda Prelude 2.2 DOHC VTEC H22a 16 Valve 4 Cylinder

Engine Performance:
Ported and polished head done by Collectiveracing, AEM 3" cold air intake ('97 Prelude), Web Cam custom cams, Web Cam springs and titanium retainers, polished and modified intake manifold done by Collectiveracing, Erick's Racing 68mm throttle body, Hondata intake manifold gasket, bored and stroked bottom end aprox 2.44ltr done by Collectiveracing, SRP pistons, Darton sleeves, nitrited and balanced crank, Prodrive oil pump, ARP rod bolts and GSR head stud conversion, SCE copper head gasket, manual timing belt tensioner conversion, lightened flywheel, Star Clutch stage 3 clutch with lightened pressure plate, Factory LSD, RC 440cc injectors, B&M fuel pressure riser and guage, APEXi VAFC, Huntley Racing A/F meter, DC Sports stainless (thermal wrapped) header with modified 2.5"collector, Removed rev limit from ECU, Dyna Batt lightweight racing battery, Nology coil, AEM underdrive pulley, Unorthodox crankshaft pulley, AEM camgears, MSD digital 6

Exterior:
Painting by JD (The Man),
JDM headlight conversion

Interior:
Momo racing seats, custom blue and gray interior (done by myself)

Sound System/Security:
Crimestopper

Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes
SSR integrals/ Kumho tires ARP extended wheel studs, LSR full coil overs (dampers), rear disk brake conversion, Powerslot rotors, Prothane bushings, Goodridge sainless brake lines, Metal master brake pads, Bogart "Dragstar" lightweight dragracing wheels

Thanks to:
MK, Jimbo, Renee, Daniel Garbiso, Brian Gillespie & Joe Sawyer at HASPORT, Kieth Gillespie at HONDA AUTO SALVAGE, Debbie & Steve at WEB CAM, Matt Dunshie and the Guys at LANDSPEED, Dann Oebker at SWEPCO, and everyone else that I forgot.




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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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maybe remove some things or replace some things to make the car lighter?

painted or non painted CF hood? maybe some CF fenders? some light weight rims?
7-14 pound seats? install lighter carpet? inflate or deflate the tires to either improve traction or improve trap speed?

or forget about the 1/4 mile and travel to leguna seca with SCCA and have some fun...
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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Scott,

Gut it like a pig!!!!
I'll come help if you decide that route.

Tim
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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make the intake as straight as possable and or individual throttle bodies
remove all banjo fittings in the stock fuel line
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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You forgot to thank Honda-Tech fool!
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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what is new since your last trip to the track?????
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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go with smaller wheels (real light ones) and some good track tires too...make your hood carbon fiber along with the fenders and take out the carpet (believe it or not it will save a lot of weight)...also you should take out the passenger seat and back seat when you race since it's so simple to do (i dunno if you do this already or not)...and do you still have the cat on your car?...if so take it off for some extra power at the top end...remove some of the trim on the car that's not needed...that could save probably 30 pounds...the plastic inside the fenders etc...good luck hitting 12's...how close are you right now (or what's your fastest time so far?)
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 01:50 PM
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You forgot to thank Honda-Tech fool!
I'd like to thank most of all the entire H-T accord forum for sharing with me in the eventful project... BETTER???
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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So Far, just the ECU was changed from the GSR to a modified P13 (removed rev limit) other than that just some weight reduction.

what is new since your last trip to the track?????
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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...good luck hitting 12's...how close are you right now (or what's your fastest time so far?)
13.24 at 104. Exaccord can attest to this for me. During the pass, I hit the rev limit twice. I was using a GSR ECU. I ditched it for a modified p13. I have no doubt 12's are near already. Probably with just some seat time I would be in the 12's. I have only made a few passes with this engine. None with this ECU. I will have to get some dyno tuning done first (of course). my car is already lightweight for an Accord, but I am trying to keep it a family car as well.


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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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How extreme are your cam profiles?
What's your rev limit?
What's your compression ratio?
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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How extreme are your cam profiles?
What's your rev limit?
What's your compression ratio?
Web did some custom cams for me and asked to try them out. Not sure about the specs on them. I will call and find out. They are close to 490 lift. that is sure.
The rev limit has been removed from the ECU. I have a shift light set to come on at 8200 RPM. the car doesn't make much power there but it helps to stay in the power band. My compression ratio is 12/1.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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What's your bore, stroke, and rod length?
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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yep... thats one quick 4 door.

all you people telling him to get lightweight wheels: he uses the ssr's for the street. at the strip he uses the bogarts.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Bore is 89mm. Stroke is 98mm. rod length is stock.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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Hmmm I recall you being 2.6 liters with stock bore and all stroke?

Now at 2,439 cc with 89 mm bore x 98 mm stroke huh?

Rod/stroke ratio: 1.459
Bore/stroke ratio: 0.908
(assuming stock rod is 143.0 mm)
Are those good numbers?
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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4doorH22,

No, that was actually never the case (just stroke). Both R&D engines I had previously were bored and stroked. Always. Both R&D engines said BYE-BYE, due to assembly issues on R&D's part...Unfortunately. I built this one myself. I changed the crank throw to a smaller 98mm and the bore size was decreased to 89mm to maintain cylinder shape (promotes strength). This engine is a lot smaller than both of my previous 2.5+ ltr R&D engines, but so far it has put out more HP/TQ than the larger R&D engines ever did. Plus it can be reved higher if needed.


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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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Ductile iron sleeves?
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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Ductile iron sleeves?
Yes, they are Dartons. This had to be done to counter the low rod ratio and compatibility with custom pistons.


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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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Are you using Hondata engine management?
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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No, I am really broke....I do need it if anybody wants to donate. HEHE!
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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That right there will help you immensely... you'll have 3D fuel mapping capabilities... adjustable ignition timing!
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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That right there will help you immensely... you'll have 3D fuel mapping capabilities... adjustable ignition timing!
I have been considering this in a big way. I have also been looking at the SDS and LINK products as well.
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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What rev limit can your top and bottom ends safely handle?

Is it true the H22 tranny will not shift over 8xxx RPMs?
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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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dude.... i thought amber had a hondata stage 4 for sale a while back. she posted a for sell thread in the HS.com arizona forum and everything.
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