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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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As you all know, you need torque across all the RPM to drift easily which the S2000 does not have. I test drove both the 350Z and the s2000 both 2007 model, the 350Z 306HP, while the S2000 237HP. I liked the S2000, look, driving and everything. Except for drifting, the 350Z drifts much easier and more controllable, unlike the S2000 you need to run the RPM pretty much high to drift it and hard to control it afterwards. So can anyone tell me how much HP should I need if I want to get the S2000 still and drift as easy as the 350Z ? And what modifications do you recommend to those extra HP, I don't want Turbo or Supercharger though.
Can a full intake headers and exhaust system do the trick ???
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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if you want to drift get a 240.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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If you wanted a drift car, you bought the wrong car.... This might help Clicky

Basically if you're not going to do forced induction, it's a lost cause. As Hondas are notorious for lack of torque. Even With I/H/E you will not gain even close to the amount of torque of the 350Z.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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I like the S2000, so what do I need. also I'm only looking for 2007 models. So 240 is out of the question, 350Z drifting is easy and entertaining when I tested it. Though, I like the S2000, I just don't want to sacrifice the drifting pleasure the 350Z has, which is enough for me. So what should I do to the S2000 if I get it?
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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I know that with I/H/E I will not gain 70HP however, do not forget that the S2000 weighs a lot less, so I thought 20-30 HP are enough to make it drift like the 350Z
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know that with I/H/E I will not gain 70HP however, do not forget that the S2000 weighs a lot less, so I thought 20-30 HP are enough to make it drift like the 350Z</TD></TR></TABLE>

Honda designed the car to stick to the asphalt, not slide around on it. like I said, read the article. It will explain, why the S2000 is not a drift ready car, and the necessary modifications they had to do to the car to make it drift.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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I don't get it..if you want to drift...then get the car that drifts. If you want a car for looks go for that.


Stop whining about it.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by megalomaniac001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want to drift get a 240.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats the car to get here in Japan You dont see that many 350's are the drift track.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I just don't want to sacrifice the drifting pleasure the 350Z has</TD></TR></TABLE>

As if your a "pro" drifter and you live in Japan... WTF are you thinking? You live in the U.S. right? You will get locked up soooooo FAST. No matter. Please buy a S2000 and turbo it. More s2ks you guys wreck the more $$$ is worth
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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I would say around 1,000,000 HP should be sufficient.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Just buy a 350z. You seem to like it a lot.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Guys,
Calm down, as if I asked for billion dollar. That's fine, I guess with one of the suggestions, bald tires, might let it slide easily, which solve the case, and yes why not having a little drifts on corners while driving, having little of fun is not bad, is it? And I wasn't asking for drifting like hours in a row, or like pros, I only asked for drifting at least like the Z, and by the way guys, I talked about the AP2 2007 model, which as 2.2 litter, in turn has better torque across the RPM range. I tried it, it drifted, the only thing is was hard to spin on new roads, that has lots of grip, so one way if I don't want to modify is just wait until I'm on slippery roads, or get old tires.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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do it!! run the tires bald as hell, drift every chance you get, and maybe, just maybe, we'll be lucky enough that you hit a wall and die

you suck at life
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Appreciate it Grafitti
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GRAF-FITI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do it!! run the tires bald as hell, drift every chance you get, and maybe, just maybe, we'll be lucky enough that you hit a wall and die

you suck at life</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahaha lmfao
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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simple. change your rear tires to all seasons. the car will drift around every corner.

The S2000 can drift just fine. I rode in one at streets of willow springs, all stock except for tires. His rear tires were worn out, and he drifted around every single turn. Even when I drove it, I had to try hard to keep it NOT drifting, it would just step out all on its own.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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it scares me that morons like this are on the streets.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Devils advocate here, but wouldnt ITBS exhaust headers and a good tune give you enough low end torque to make it slide a lil bit with out going FI? and also give you an awesome car? the differential would hate you in an ap1.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mok &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Guys,
Calm down, as if I asked for billion dollar. That's fine, I guess with one of the suggestions, bald tires, might let it slide easily, which solve the case, and yes why not having a little drifts on corners while driving, having little of fun is not bad, is it? And I wasn't asking for drifting like hours in a row, or like pros, I only asked for drifting at least like the Z, and by the way guys, I talked about the AP2 2007 model, which as 2.2 litter, in turn has better torque across the RPM range. I tried it, it drifted, the only thing is was hard to spin on new roads, that has lots of grip, so one way if I don't want to modify is just wait until I'm on slippery roads, or get old tires.

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You have got to be kidding me.

- Running bald tires on the street in this car is a very very bad idea unless you want to be 6 feet under.
- "and yes why not having a little drifts on corners while driving, having little of fun is not bad, is it?" Because you're not the only driver on public roads you tool. You 'could' be the best driver on the road but you have absolutely no account for the person in the car next to you.
- "I talked about the AP2 2007 model, which as 2.2 litter, in turn has better torque across the RPM range. " Stop trying to flex your knowledge, you don't have much. An Ap1 is way easier to drift. And that 8lb/tq isn't going to make that much of a difference.

On another note, when you do end up 6 feet under with your stupidity, I hope you don't take anyone else with you.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madlion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Devils advocate here, but wouldnt ITBS exhaust headers and a good tune give you enough low end torque to make it slide a lil bit with out going FI? and also give you an awesome car? the differential would hate you in an ap1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well that's easy. You can go FI and have an awesome car too with a lot more potential. ITB's don't do a whole lot on our cars.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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itbs= throttle response which is what your looking for at lower rpms in the s2k right? wont this contribute to losing traction in turns(drifting)?
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madlion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itbs= throttle response which is what your looking for at lower rpms in the s2k right? wont this contribute to losing traction in turns(drifting)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, but more bang for your buck going boost. And tuning isn't an easy feat with the ITB's, hence the reason you don't see too many running around. You'll be spending similar amounts of money when all is said and done.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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no doubt more bang for the buck but theres a lot that can go wrong with turbo. supercharger is prolly the most bang along with 4.57 gears.

my ideal setup itbs, exhaust, headers, 4.57 gears and a good non vafc tune and keep a/c. with some good suspension mods maybe to loosen it up it could be a decent drift car non FI.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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still who would buy a s2k to make it a drift car. there are better platforms to start with like the nissan 240. the s2k is a autocross car not a drift car
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madlion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no doubt more bang for the buck but theres a lot that can go wrong with turbo. supercharger is prolly the most bang along with 4.57 gears.

my ideal setup itbs, exhaust, headers, 4.57 gears and a good non vafc tune and keep a/c. with some good suspension mods maybe to loosen it up it could be a decent drift car non FI.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In an NA car 4.77 FTW. As for the AC, you can go turbo or supercharge and still keep it.

By the way, I might have an AEM EMS for sale soon. It's a 1052U.
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