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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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I just got done changing my clutch and now my car won't go into gear when the engine is running. If I put it in first gear and turn the engine on then I can move the car. I searched and saw that some people with similar problems like me said their car moves on its own but mine DOESN'T do that. I had the flywheel resurfaced if that matters. I tried every gear and none of them would engage. When I tried reverse it would just grid. For all the other gears it would just not go into gear.

Edit: with the engine off I can get it to go into every gear with no problem at all.


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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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I can move the car. I searched and saw that some people with similar problems like me said their car moves on its own but mine DOESN'T do that.

you sure you can move the car?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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what pressure plate are you using??? was it used> I had the same prob when i bought a bad pressure plate.. ended up being a bent arm on the PP.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white90crxhf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you sure you can move the car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, I drove it a couple feet.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFM_ookie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what pressure plate are you using??? was it used&gt; I had the same prob when i bought a bad pressure plate.. ended up being a bent arm on the PP. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm using the new pressure plate that came with my exedy clutch.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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hows the adjustement on the cable itself?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Yeah it sounds like maybe the clutch isnt disengaging? Youd be able to get into gear when you were stopped just swinging the shifter back and forth but when the motors running, and youre stopped, youre going to have a hell of a time getting it to go into any gears, unless youre super good at powershifting
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 05:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89s1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hows the adjustement on the cable itself?</TD></TR></TABLE>


I adjusted the cable as tight as I could get it and then really loose and it still wouldn't go in gear.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bobjohnson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah it sounds like maybe the clutch isnt disengaging? </TD></TR></TABLE>

That seems to be the problem to me.

I added an extra line to my original post. If the engine is off it will go into any gear really easy.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 05:38 AM
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Default Re: new clutch, won't go in any gear. (george34)

did you replace the throw out bearing? If so did you make sure that you the bolt in the arm that makes the bearing go in and out?
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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I replaced the throw-out bearing. I'm pretty sure I put that bolt in.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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I put a clutch in my car one time and I forgot to put the bolt back in and I had the same symtoms. So I had to pull the motor back out to put the bolt it. You might be abke to ta take the inspection cover off the tranny to see if the bolt it there or not
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef-hatchcrap &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I put a clutch in my car one time and I forgot to put the bolt back in and I had the same symptoms. So I had to pull the motor back out to put the bolt it. You might be able to ta take the inspection cover off the tranny to see if the bolt it there or not</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did your clutch pedal have resistance when you forgot the bolt?
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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nope pedal just went straight to the floor
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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My pedal has resistence like it is trying to engage. It is almost like it is not fully engaging causing it to not want to shift into any gear.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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I'm going to guess that you didn't put the throw out bearing spring on the right way or it broke. happened to me, mine broke

either way... you have to pull everything apart to find the problem.

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Your cable is out of adjustment. I know you are thinking "okay so the clutch isnt being disengaged, so I need to tighten the cable."

But actually this is what you want to do: Loosen the cable enough so you can jiggle the clutch lever on the tranny... there needs to be a little slop.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LilJonWask &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your cable is out of adjustment. I know you are thinking "okay so the clutch isnt being disengaged, so I need to tighten the cable."

But actually this is what you want to do: Loosen the cable enough so you can jiggle the clutch lever on the tranny... there needs to be a little slop. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope that it is just a clutch cable out of adjustment but I have a bad feeling about it. This engine swap has been such a pain so it would be to easy for it to just be a clutch cable. I will go out tomorrow and readjust the cable.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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It's not the cable. I put the car in first started the engine drove it a couple feet then pushed the clutch with the car still in gear and hit the gas. The car didn't move so the clutch is disengaging. Then I drove the car a couple more feet so it is engaging. So the car can just not go into any gear with the engine on. Does anyone have a clue what it could be?????
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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sounds like it could possibly be the spring, my clutch did the same thing when I first did my swap just played around with it enough to where it got worn in a little and got better.
I also didnt install the throwout bearing spring still works fine though. pull it apart check and see what the problem is
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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i bet 50$ the clutch disc is backwards, any takers, ive done it not once, but twice same symptoms
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Project Phoenix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bet 50$ the clutch disc is backwards, any takers, I've done it not once, but twice same symptoms</TD></TR></TABLE>

Would the clutch engage and disengage if the disk was on backwards?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jweeks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like it could possibly be the spring, my clutch did the same thing when I first did my swap just played around with it enough to where it got worn in a little and got better.
I also didn't install the throwout bearing spring still works fine though. pull it apart check and see what the problem is</TD></TR></TABLE>

The same question as above.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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why haven't you taken the car apart? you'll find your answer as soon as you do.

good luck
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .Manny. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why haven't you taken the car apart? you'll find your answer as soon as you do.

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I've been busy. Does anyone know have a write-up on taking a tranny out with the engine still in the car? Is it as easy as taking the motor mount off, taking the transmission bolts out, and then slide the tranny backwards and dropping it???? What do you guys normally use to support the tranny as you slide it back? Just a normal floor jack??

EDIT: I forgot a couple things. Also remove axles, shift linkage, and drain the tranny fluid.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Your description is how I do it. A little ghetto but unless you got a hoist it's really the best solution.

You throw out bearing is either fucked or your pressure plate is. Those are the only 2 things that allow the clutch to engage and disengage. Everything else is there for friction purpose.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Isn't it engaging and disengaging. I put the car in first gear start the car. Then I leave out on the clutch,engage, and it will move. Then I can push the clutch in,disengage, and rev the engine without the car moving. So wouldn't that be considered engaging and disengaging??? Or would the engine have to be able to start THEN put it in gear and take off to be considered engaging??

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Project Phoenix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bet 50$ the clutch disc is backwards, any takers, ive done it not once, but twice same symptoms</TD></TR></TABLE>

i didnt think this was possible.. i just did a swap and replaced my clutch, i put the clutch in backwards and tried to put the new PP on and it woudlnt go on at all. i would hate to do all that work and have to take it all apart again. i woudl probably shoot my brains out.
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