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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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so im lookin to get a nitrous kit for a d16z6, 96 civic. My question is what do you guys think a good kit will be. I plan to install myself. I know theres a wet kit, and dry kit. Which is better. Any opinions you have let me know, and thanks for all the help guys
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:11 AM
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Unless you plan on making your civic a track only car, its not worth it. It fries your rings, and makes your cylinder walls look like a cheese grater. The best way to beat the crap out of your motor is with nitrous, lol.

Since your motor (im assuming) is basically stock, you should probably go with a dry kit, their a little more simple to install than wet.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you plan on making your civic a track only car, its not worth it. It fries your rings, and makes your cylinder walls look like a cheese grater. The best way to beat the crap out of your motor is with nitrous, lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is the most bogus statement I have ever heard and hear it all too often
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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you want a wet kit, iv installed a few and nitrous express is by far the most straight forward.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sicones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

this is the most bogus statement I have ever heard and hear it all too often </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you very much.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you plan on making your civic a track only car, its not worth it. It fries your rings, and makes your cylinder walls look like a cheese grater. The best way to beat the crap out of your motor is with nitrous, lol.

Since your motor (im assuming) is basically stock, you should probably go with a dry kit, their a little more simple to install than wet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You sure about that? 'Cause I had my 509 running on 200 shot with JUST the timing set and the fuel jets pulled a little and I didn't "roast any rings" or "turn my cylinder walls into what looks like a cheese grader."

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1BADEGDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so im lookin to get a nitrous kit for a d16z6, 96 civic. My question is what do you guys think a good kit will be. I plan to install myself. I know theres a wet kit, and dry kit. Which is better. Any opinions you have let me know, and thanks for all the help guys</TD></TR></TABLE>

Get a dry kit, and don't run that much juice through it or you WILL sling a rod, regardless of how ur tuned, due to the block's top HP capacity.

If you plan on fully building the motor then maybe you can go with a wet one but that's a different deal, until you have a built motor it's not worth it at all. Go dry, I can see right through this forum and into your intentions...you want a dry kit...

I always go with ZEX b/c they ******* kick *** and works every time. A lot of other pple that have it in my town go w/ NOS or NE.

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Dont you guys think a wet kit would be alittle safer or do they provide a FMU or something with the dry kit?
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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ive read that zex was one of the safest kits. i plan to do just a couple bolt ons. stock internals and probably just a fifty shot well what you think about seventyfive-will that be pushin it? (sorry about the way this looks this keyboard is all fukd up and im only limited to certain keys) and ya i would need something thats not too hard to install. cuz ima be doin it myself. and i plan to go gsr in months. should i stay squeezin when i get that. thanks for all the help guys i really appriciate it&gt;
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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ZEX all the way
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Just don't blow the welds on the intake manifold
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Get a dry kit, and don't run that much juice through it or you WILL sling a rod, regardless of how ur tuned, due to the block's top HP capacity.

If you plan on fully building the motor then maybe you can go with a wet one but that's a different deal, until you have a built motor it's not worth it at all. Go dry, I can see right through this forum and into your intentions...you want a dry kit...

I always go with ZEX b/c they ******* kick *** and works every time. A lot of other pple that have it in my town go w/ NOS or NE.
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ZEX™ Dry Nitrous Kit
ZEX™ has designed the ultimate Smart Nitrous Oxide System. The ZEX™ Dry Nitrous System, using ZEX™'s patented fuel control technology, reads the nitrous bottle pressure and adjusts the fuel enrichment accordingly. If it is a cool day out and the nitrous bottle pressure is around 700 psi, the nitrous system will add less enrichment than if it is a warm day and the nitrous bottle is at 950 psi. This unique feature ensures that you always have the optimum ratio of nitrous oxide and fuel, never too rich, never too lean. This ensures maximum power and safety at all bottle pressures. Once armed, the kit is activated at wide-open throttle by a programmable electronic sensor that learns the voltage curve of your TPS sensor. This design ensures your nitrous oxide is engaged at the perfect throttle point every time. The design of ZEX™ Dry Nitrous System makes it the simplest, safest, and easiest to install nitrous oxide kit on the market.

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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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ZEX dry kit it is, thanks! umm you think 50 or 75?
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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if u want more i think ull be fine with a 75 shot ive heard of more on a stock motor
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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i also dont want to blow my engine, i want another year on it. and what would you reccomend for a b series?
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BADEGDC2
i also dont want to blow my engine, i want another year on it. and what would you reccomend for a b series?
Depends which kind and how built it is.

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if u want more i think ull be fine with a 75 shot ive heard of more on a stock motor
Yeah, 75 will be fine. 50 would make too small of a difference.

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ZEX™ Dry Nitrous Kit
ZEX™ has designed the ultimate Smart Nitrous Oxide System. The ZEX™ Dry Nitrous System, using ZEX™'s patented fuel control technology, reads the nitrous bottle pressure and adjusts the fuel enrichment accordingly. If it is a cool day out and the nitrous bottle pressure is around 700 psi, the nitrous system will add less enrichment than if it is a warm day and the nitrous bottle is at 950 psi. This unique feature ensures that you always have the optimum ratio of nitrous oxide and fuel, never too rich, never too lean. This ensures maximum power and safety at all bottle pressures. Once armed, the kit is activated at wide-open throttle by a programmable electronic sensor that learns the voltage curve of your TPS sensor. This design ensures your nitrous oxide is engaged at the perfect throttle point every time. The design of ZEX™ Dry Nitrous System makes it the simplest, safest, and easiest to install nitrous oxide kit on the market.
Damn strait, ZEX FTMFW!!!


Originally Posted by sageuvagony
Just don't blow the welds on the intake manifold
I was waiting for somebody to say that .

Originally Posted by forcefedferio
ZEX all the way
Damn strait.

Originally Posted by Sr420Det
Dont you guys think a wet kit would be alittle safer or do they provide a FMU or something with the dry kit?
No, a dry kit on like 50 or 75 is safer, they both have fuel management I think - I'm not positive on that part though - never bought a nitrous kit for a 4 banger.

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ive read that zex was one of the safest kits. i plan to do just a couple bolt ons. stock internals and probably just a fifty shot well what you think about seventyfive-will that be pushin it? (sorry about the way this looks this keyboard is all fukd up and im only limited to certain keys) and ya i would need something thats not too hard to install. cuz ima be doin it myself. and i plan to go gsr in months. should i stay squeezin when i get that. thanks for all the help guys i really appriciate it&gt;
Yeah, that's why nitrous rules. It's like...the one step "past" bolt-ons" - it's what you can do to add massive amounts of power with little money, and without ripping the engine apart.

Nitrous rules because it ranges from 50whp to 1000+whp - the only downside is it's not constant power - it's "win the race" power.

ZEX kits are the safest, they're the best, very easy to install. Very good buy IMO.

I had a ZEX kit on my Z28 (454 bored to a 509 (8.3L)). Laid down 748//802 on 200s custom DP. Only problem I ever had was once I put a 200 jet on it b/c I was trying to beat my boss's viper @ the track, when it was only tuned for a 100 jet and it backfired and set my carburator/intake filter/intake filter housing on fire. Though that was my own stupidity, not the kit's fault.

ZEX FTW!!!

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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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I don't like the DRY ZEX kit, whenever I used it the "fuel management box" **** never increase fuel pressure like it was supposed too and it always made me run lean.

then I got a NX wet kit, which is probably the best nitrous kit on the market
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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kewl, im happy to see ppl talking about the Dry Zex kit, with the brain.
Very kewl.

Its what i use. a 75 shot on your motor will put you at about 14.3-14.6 afr depending on the outside conditions. as long as you stay under 14.8 your golden.

sombody said somthing about the brain box not doing a whole lot...
that brain box has the ablity to put an addtional 5-7lbs of fuel psi. so with a 75 shot its perfect.

if i still rocked a SoHc, thats all i would do. cold plugs and a 75 shot. all day long, ant gonna hurt a damn thing.

if you use a obd1 ecu, pull timing two degrees, if your using obd2 ecu, dont make any changes, it will by its self.


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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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damn, good information ive been thinking of nitrous for a while but i could never heard from anyone with real experience
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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I don't know that much about nitrous ....which kit gives you option to have a bottom to give a shot whenever you want?
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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most of the kits use a button to spray...but there are more complex kits that spray different amounts of nitrous depending on rpms and such but thats more for a drag car
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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I recommend the zex 82030 direct port with a 50 shot on a stock motor, esp if its your daily driver. More work with taking out the manifold (I bought a spare so less down time) but more peace of mind imo. Also you might consider a edelbrock performer x im if you are using the 96-00 y8 manifold as supposedly the stock y8 leans out on one cylinder, the edelbrock has the tb mount at an angle which supposedly fixes this.
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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get a zex dry kit
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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zex dry kit FTW, wet is safer in bigger applications, but not needed at all for smaller shots.

dry kit can be installed in a couple hours and uninstalled in 30mins. i have a full writeup with pictures of an install i did on my old integra if you want it.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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yea ^^^ that would be hella cool ... so, on the d16z6 i would be safe doin a 75 shot right with some cold plugs, dont forget its all bone stock, just minor bolt ons, and on the b18c1 75 would also be safe right. It is currently being used as a daily driver so i dont want to blow anything up, and if it makes a difference i live in las vegas nv. Thanks for all the info guys, keep it comin
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Go with the dry kit. Easier to install, and safer in this application.

If something goes wrong, you'll run rich rather than blowing your motor.
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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i wouldnt consider 75 shot safe, its borderline, but it all depends on how well you read plugs and the weather in your area.

i would stick with a 55shot max on any daily driven SOHC.
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