Which one performs better on the dyno.. It will be going on my daily driven GSR...
anybody have any dyno experience with these manifolds... If so about how much hp and where in the power band does it deliver...

 

your setup?

 

B18C1 built head valves, springs, retainers, racing port and polish and valve job...
JDM 4 to 1 header, intake.... ready to buy cams and manifold..... Going for the 200whp club.. doing some searching before dropping the cash

 

Stock Pistons? Skunk 2

 

yep stock pistons.. for the time being...

 

from what ive seen ive never been impressed with skunk2 intake mani's, but the edlebrocks have always seemed to put down more power......but since your all motor and i assume your going to raise the stock redline....your going to want the victor x mani, the performer x will give you a much better mid-range power but will kill you top-end which after paying all that money for the built head, im sure you want to maximize your topend power, especially if you want to break 200, goodluck with the build

 

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Please don't listen to this fool, search performer.

 

in he's setup the performer will outperform BADLY the victor... dont matter if he revs it to 19krpm

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search performer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

X2

 

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Please don't listen to this fool, search performer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

aight man, please search and you will see what im talking about, like i stated, the victor will make much more power up top, and if he wants to break 200, i would say get the victor, especially if he may want to take another step in the build later on with a more aggressive set-up, the performer will choke it up top.......if you want a good compromise i would just but an oem type r mani, portmatch it and go

 

No choking here

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2012979

 

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aight man, please search and you will see what im talking about, like i stated, the victor will make much more power up top, and if he wants to break 200, i would say get the victor, especially if he may want to take another step in the build later on with a more aggressive set-up, the performer will choke it up top.......if you want a good compromise i would just but an oem type r mani, portmatch it and go </TD></TR></TABLE>

your name suits you very well. . . worst advice ever.

 

well i can't argue with the graphs and it not making power, but if you look at the graphs, you will see that the performer starts to lose power by around 7800 rpms as it then begins to drop, the victor has max power at 8700 rpms, if you then look at both power at 8700, its almost at the exact hp.......so if he wants to build again later on the road with a more aggressive set-up, the victor would be a better choice, but i can't argue with his current set-up the performer would be a better candidate, there is no reason to be dicks here guys

 

The only problem is if your not reving to around 9k, you really dont gain that much at all. You lose so much midrange power that the top-end pull doesnt make up for it. The victor x is only good for high rpm power with a baddass setup!! I went from a stock b16 to a skunk2 pro and it lacks bottem alot. Top end pull is great. The rev-range on a victor x is 7k-10,000!!!

 

go with the skunk 2

 

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You need to learn how to read graphs.
VictorX:


Performer X:


The Performer X smokes the VictorX up to at least 8,800 on that motor. For 95% of the all motor Honda vehicles on the road, the PerformerX would be a better choice, by far.

 

Just got done with some tests and they look similar.

 

Wow. Good stuff young noob!

 

skunk2 pro series :thumbsup: great topend

 

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You need to learn how to read graphs.
VictorX:


Performer X:


The Performer X smokes the VictorX up to at least 8,800 on that motor. For 95% of the all motor Honda vehicles on the road, the PerformerX would be a better choice, by far.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i can read graphs just fine, do you all not see what im saying? yea i fucked up i thought the performer would choke up top, but you all proved me wrong, but if later on he wants to go more aggressive the performer x won't suffice, it's already losing power after 7800.....where the victor's power keeps climbing and peaks at 8800......extending the powerband, and how many hiph hp na motors do we see only revving to 7800? which would also be close to the vtec crossover, giving him a very short 2000rmps on the big lobe.....this is also saying that the motor is taken to the next step though.....now i need to ask, can you read the graph?

 

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The power hits a peak at 7,800 and holds steady until 8,500. Perhaps you are looking at the torque graph? The PerformerX bitch slaps the VictorX, can you not see that? The torque at 8,000 is at least 10 ft-lbs. higher with the P-X over the V-X. That = ~ 15 WHP. Wonder which one would be faster...

 

(young noob) before you make the assumption on the manifold losing power up top - maybe you want to ask about the headwork/camshaft combination - not to mention this
manifold was untouched outside of it being portmatched... thats gobs of power on a 1.8
- the original poster of this graph did say this was a 'budget build' maybe he could chime in on what he thinks a motor with more attention could make - the way that motor falls off after 8500 rpm could be several reasons - not just the manifold.

 

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i can read graphs just fine,

BLAH BLAH BLAH

.....now i need to ask, can you read the graph? </TD></TR></TABLE>


The one not making power is the VictorX, and the one making power is the performerX.
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The power hits a peak at 7,800 and holds steady until 8,500. Perhaps you are looking at the torque graph? The PerformerX bitch slaps the VictorX, can you not see that? The torque at 8,000 is at least 10 ft-lbs. higher with the P-X over the V-X. That = ~ 15 WHP. Wonder which one would be faster...</TD></TR></TABLE>

What he said.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MikeSarr_GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(young noob) before you make the assumption on the manifold losing power up top - maybe you want to ask about the headwork/camshaft combination - not to mention this
manifold was untouched outside of it being portmatched... thats gobs of power on a 1.8
- the original poster of this graph did say this was a 'budget build' maybe he could chime in on what he thinks a motor with more attention could make - the way that motor falls off after 8500 rpm could be several reasons - not just the manifold.

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The specs on the motor can be found in the intake manifold comparison test link found in my sig. As far as what can make it better would definitely be a real header, a bigger exhaust, and maybe even some larger cams. Id like to also see what kind of power can be made on a more aggressive tune with race gas.

As far as the original posted question on this thread, i think the performerX will outperform any itr style intake manifold.

 

MikeySpec: Thanks for posting results, not just theories

 

he thinks it will keep going up forever!!! lol poor guy. he thinks most street setups go to 10k MAKING POWAH! vtak etc

 

I am just wondering what planet we have drifted from if 215whp by 8000 rpm isnt respectable on an 1800cc Honda motor? Especially one with a flat tq curve for about
1500 rpm before that conservatively - I am impressed with what they put together.
Waiting to see what kind of runs they could put down