D16A6 owners, Crank pully bolt diffrent sizes?

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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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Default D16A6 owners, Crank pully bolt diffrent sizes?

Car: 89' CRX HF
Swap: D16A6 going in, D15coming out.

Problem:
After pulling out the D15 i buzzed off the crank pulley and bolt, so I could use them on the A6. How ever, it won't fit. The bolt is to big. I tried a bolt off of a D16y8,another D15, and just tried another off of a A6.

What gives here? We took the A6 apart to rebuild it,and It had never been taken apart. I know the origanl owner never removed the oil pan.
Any one ever have this problem?
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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So I tried a tranny bolt to see if it was the rite diameter and thread pitch, and it is. So basicly thats what I need just for the cran thow.

Anyone know why this is?
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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The first half of the 1988 A6's had a different crank pulley and smaller crank snout. The rest of them all have the same from mid-88 onward. Is your A6 from an '88 model?
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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I beleave so. Thanks for the info.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Alright, so I now have the rite bolt for the crank pulley. But Honda keeps sending me the wrong pulley with the bolt. I was told ther where 2 options for that motor and the 1st didn;t work. Today I received the 2nd one and guess what. Again not the 1 I need. Here are a couple pics of whats going on.

The Bolt on the Left is the one I needed,



2 Pulleys that are diffrent but don't work....




Old D15 is 24mm



the D16A6 is 22mm

Has anyone else had this problem. Tomarrow I'm going back to tell them the "new Pulley" didn't work either.
By anychance , does someone have this smaller pulley?
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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what you have found is very strange.. any chance there is an aftermarket crank in the car or something? it still doesnt make sense, but that is the only idea i have. ive done quite a few timing belts on 88-91's, and ill admit that i wasnt trying to mix and match or anything, but i dont ever remember seeing any other bolt than the one you have on the right in the pictures.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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The d16a6 you have is the older 88 and some 89 version of the a6 with the smaller snout. Keep digging.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Default Re: D16A6 owners, Crank pully bolt diffrent sizes? (sanimalp)

nope, I got the swap froma freind. The motor was the origanl motor out of his 88' SI. I took every bolt off the iol pan myself, and this is the origanl crank, as far as I can tell.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n3h3bkau &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The d16a6 you have is the older 88 and some 89 version of the a6 with the smaller snout. Keep digging.</TD></TR></TABLE>

man, this swap is going to give me more grey hair. Its been sitting for 2 weeks now in the same spot. By the time the send me the next pulley it will be 3weeks.

Where is the big red easy button, when you need it.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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weird.

just like the damn 88's have welded ball joints and other stupidness.

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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OK, so know there telling me (Honda parts guy) that this pulley I need must be a rare jdm pulley and they can't get it.

Anyone here have one sitting around from a old motor? I need to get this car back to the customer ASAP.

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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The smaller, early '88 bolt is part number:
90017-PB2-004 : BOLT, SPECIAL (12MM) (SAGA)
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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dealerships suck @#$@. they are as bad a a parts store. ive had problems finding parts with them to. exspecially if it only cost a couple of dollars then there like scew it i dont feel like digging
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fireant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The smaller, early '88 bolt is part number:
90017-PB2-004 : BOLT, SPECIAL (12MM) (SAGA)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you. I got a part # for the puley, but when we refranced it to the Honda #. It came back as a the 1st pulley we got. Witch isteh same one as teh one on the left in the pic above.
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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looks like its time to start looking for a A6 crank, and just get away from this pulley.
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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get a buddy to try and install the crank again, i bet you are just screwing up something really small and stupid... a 2nd set of eyes helps so much when you are completly stuck.... gl
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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reinstall the crank? its on the snout (the end of the crank). I'm pretty shure pulling the crank and reinstalling it won't make the pulley fit over the snout.

Thanx anyway.
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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up.. Any one have a pic of the pulley I'm looking for?
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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good luck finding a 22mm crank pulley!

The 22mm crank snout is a carry over from the 84-87 EW motors, dunno if a 87 pulley would work.

I'd research on http://www.redpepperracing.com
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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thanx, awaiting approve so i can ask on there.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 05:26 AM
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The early pulley is stamped steel instead of cast and machined. It does not have dampening rubber and it weighs less than the later stock ones.

87 pulley just might work!
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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These folks might be able to track down an early 88 pulley:
http://www.haprecycling.com/

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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Just called, they are going to check for me. Gotta call back in 1hr.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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wish i could help man I never was aware of this issue
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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this guy will have your pulley....just remind him that you need the SMALL one......

Milan's Honda
225 E. Harry Bridges
Wilmington, Ca. 90744
310 518-5464

Good Luck
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