I know one of the largest AQUAMIST dealers in the country I can hook you guys up with a deal. The kits we offer are similar to the Jackson Racing water injection but include a better Race version pump and alot more options, also the kits are much cheaper For details you can IM me or drop me a e-mail.


If you would like to talk directly to the dealer his name is brad his number is 816-333-6582 between the times 8-6 pm mon-sat just tell him you talked to Michael about a Honda group buy!

thanks

-=TWITCH=-

 

more info please.

 

yes, more info would be nice

 

aquamist is ERL's latest generation
of water-injection equipment.
The main function of these systems
is to suppress detonation caused by
high temperature and pressure developed
within the combustion chamber when
the effective compression ratio has
been taken beyond the auto-ignition point
by either a turbo or a supercharger.
Water, with its high latent heat content,
is extremely effective for controlling
not only the onset of detonation but also the
production of oxides of nitrogen in
the modern leanburn engines.
ERL's latest products are designed with
great care to ensure each system meets the
highest standards of both electronic and
mechanical reliability.


my buddy has SAAB running 25 psi with no detonation
what else would you guys like to know? water injection is used to increase your boost on stock internals or built internals without risk of detonation
If you would like to learn about AQUAMIST you can check out there web site at http://www.aquamist.co.uk/


[Modified by -=TWITCH=-, 11:28 PM 6/4/2002]


[Modified by -=TWITCH=-, 11:31 PM 6/4/2002]

 

Water Injecton is, as they say in Madagascar.... da Shiznit !

I believe Ford UK uses it in one or two of their stock offerings. It is great for turbo vehicles, my dad used to run it in his '75 turbo Stingray, 500+whp. It is a very reliable way to give small increases in boost and deter pre-ignition... plus it keeps your internals clean ! I wish I had some $$ now... I know the systems are really cost effective, but any idea on pricing ? I would save up for it !!!

 

For you guys running pretty high boost levels and who want to save a little bit more money in the long run by not having to buy high octane fuel , go ahead and go with an alcohol injection kit. SMC offers a great kit for $350 bucks that is boost activated (turns on at a desired boost level) and has a full controller with a couple LED lights that tell you when the alcohol level is low and when the alcohol is engaged.

You use denatured alcohol from Home Depot or wherever and it'll raise the octane level to 102 and decrease engine temperatures drastically. I don't remember the exact site, but just do a google or yahoo search for "SMC Alcohol Injection kit"...a bunch of the Grand National car guys swear by this kit.

Just a suggestion, Aquamist is a great company and water injection works very well also.

 

Where/how does it inject the water? Charge pipe?

 

I would be interested!

 

WE offer 3 Aquamist kits
The 1s is the basic system its operated by a pressure switch, This system is only off and on. It comes with 3 nozzles, line, and the list price is $450. This kit is similar to the Jackson racing kit but the jackson racing kit only comes with one nozzle and is 100 dollars more.
The 2s system is operated by a control unit called the MF2 it is totally programable by RPM and boost. The kit comes with Nozzles, line, MF2, and the price is $850
The 2c is the system in between the upper two if your car uses high impedance fuel injectors this kit is best for your car! it basically piggybacks off of your fuel injectors and mirrors exactly what your injectors do. The kit comes with Nozzles, line, and the price is $650
we usally tap into the stock winsheild washer tank for the water supply

I personaly feel that the 2c is best for most cars I have it on my own personal car.

The way that we do group buys is for every 10 people the price drops 10%
The group buy starts june 6 2002 and it is open for two weeks.
if you are interseted in purchasing a kit please e-mail me your name, and phone number because I need to know the total number of people buying the kits. We would like to contact each person on a individual basis to find out exactly what application and car the kit will go on and what extra parts you might need to install the kit on your car. you can pay by mastercard, visa, discover.

I would also like to point out that we sell individual parts and are technical support is 2nd to none. You can call us 8-6 mon-sat with any questions about installation and tunning.

-=TWITCH=-


[Modified by -=TWITCH=-, 10:30 PM 6/5/2002]

 

I've been thinking of installing an aquamist system in my car for a long time now.. it would suit me for sure, considering the weather here.. thing was that no one here had heard of thie thing, and nobody sold them over here, so I just detuned my ECU in order to prevent the slightest bit of detonation and improve reliability. Now that I see a groupbuy, i'm interested I'll wait first though to see if there are a lot of buyers involved.. if so, then I might jump in..

 

 

Where can I get info on the 2c kit?

And, inform us how the the system has worked on your car....

 

Where is that tapped to? Before the throttle body?

 

I'm guessing you have to keep refilling the system right?

 

Yes this is taped into a charge pipe before the throttle body, kinda like a dry nitrous set up. We have it installed on my friend Saab that is boosting 25 psi just fine. yes you have to refill the kit but you can tap into your windsheild washer fluid tank, but you can only run water through the kit. Or you can make your own water tank to tap into.

here is your info on the 2c kit
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/cp/sys2c/sys2c.html

 

is it possible to run this kit with TWO nozzles instead of one? i ask because i would like to inject the mist *after* the throttle body, but on my particular setup it would be very difficult to do that and get good distribution with only one nozzle....

 

yup it sure is you can do it with just one nozzle behind the throttle body if you want or you can do this kinda like direct port what is your set up why couldent you just tap into a charge pipe?



[Modified by -=TWITCH=-, 11:59 PM 6/5/2002]

 

check http://www.kcsaab.com and click on the aquamist link. there is alot of information there on the 2c.

on my own personal car the 2c works very well i am able to sustain 20 psi with 100 degree days and have no detenation problems. my car is a 1989 saab 900 turbo so far my best time is a 14.64@98.7 mph. I would like to point out that we use the 2c diffrently than described on the website. we have devised away to drive the high spped valve with the stock fuel injectors if you have high impedance injectors. that is 13-16 ohms resistance. So the water injection will mirror the fuel injectors. I would like to point a mistake from an earlier post you can also run methanol through these systems or a mix of both.

If theres anything else you need to know let me know.

Also what car might you be putting this on?

the systems use about 1 gallon for every 15 gallons of gas.

[Modified by aquamist, 4:15 PM 6/6/2002]


[Modified by aquamist, 4:20 PM 6/6/2002]

 

can I use alcohol on this system?

 

What i dont understand is- why does the principle of injecting water in your system help avoid detination. Common sense tells me that squirting water in my engine is bad?
*shrug*

 

THE CONCEPT of injecting water into the internal combustion engine has been around for over 50 years. But the desire to extract more power from the standard production engine has increased at a neck-breaking speed. ERL has just revived this old principle, applying the latest techniques in both electronic and mechanical engineering to take water injection into the next millennium.
WATER? Water exists mainly in a liquid state because that is its most stable inter-molecular structure. When we apply heat energy to it, its molecules begin to expand: a great deal of heat is absorbed during this process owing to water's specific heat capacity - approximately 4.2kJ/(kg.K). When the water changes from the liquid to gas state, large amount of heat energy is consumed in sustaining the process. The latent heat of evaporation is 2256kJ/kg, approximately six times more than gasoline!
SO WHAT? Because of its huge specific- and latent- heat capacity, water is the perfect liquid for regulating excess heat under certain engine-operating conditions, for example induction charge air cooling; but its biggest contribution is inside the combustion chamber where, under excessive loading, pre-ignition and detonation can otherwise occur. Such abnormal combustion is particularly common in force induction engines, where exhaust temperature can exceed 1100°C!
WHAT CHANCE has a piston got under these conditions, given that aluminium melts at 660°C? 99% of production cars keep exhaust temperature below 850°C by fuel-dumping, and hold crown temperature below 550°C by conduction to the underside and skirt of the piston, which is constantly being quenched by engine oil. Most of the heat is transferred to the cylinder wall. Simple and wonderful solutions, but ...
TURBO-CARS are easily upgraded just by adjusting the boost pressure and adding a commercially-available pre-programmed chip; but the hidden drawback of this solution is that even more fuel is being dumped -- as a coolant! -- to compensate for standard engine-cooling arrangements (inside the engine bay your fast-road car has more-or-less the same radiators and cooling fans as the family car next door). But as you upgrade your power-upgrade, you will get to the point where the fuel becomes so rich, and the flame is burning so slowly, that power is being lost rather than gained.
WORSE STILL your piston is no longer being lubricated properly: bore-wash is taking its toll of the pistons. You might decide to combat this with a very special synthetic oil, developed from years of research, which helped some car to win a few championships last season. Your favourite racing-driver recommends it on TV, so of course you want to believe him. But have you ever wondered why he has to get his engine rebuilt after every race?
HELP! Help is indeed at hand! The ERL Aquamist system, using sophisticated electronics to process engine-data, injects a precisely-metered quantity of coolant: not gasoline, but water, six times more effective, and freely available! We eliminate fuel-dumping, leaving your air/fuel ratio unaffected, enabling maximum power to be extracted from the engine. To ensure that each cylinder receives exactly the same dosage, we deliver the coolant in a fine mist: not only does Aquamist eliminate piston-ring damage ... it steam-cleans your engine with every stroke!
THERE'S MORE ... The Aquamist system offers a full range of diagnostic features, enabling you to detect blocked nozzles, cut water-pipes, and all sorts of other smashing things. If track record and expertise is what you want, don't wait for your favourite racing driver to tell you about Aquamist on TV: it might be too late ...

 

you can also run methanol through these systems or a mix of both.
methanol and water!


[Modified by -=TWITCH=-, 11:33 AM 6/6/2002]

 

Its ot pouring water in the engine but more like a mist like a fogger just that U are using water. If U were to look at it in action it will look like its coming from something like a spray can. very very fine mist.

 

so if we can get 500 people they'll cost $9.60 each? hell, i'll buy all 500 myself