Hatchback93

what would be the best complete swap into my 93 civic AUTO TRANS?
and id like to keep it AUTO.

H22 COMPLETE SWAP AUTO TRANS
OR
F20 COMPLETE SWAP AUTO AUTO TRANS? IF IT CAN EVEN FIT?


Modified by Hatchback93 at 12:39 PM 6/4/2007


Modified by Hatchback93 at 12:39 PM 6/4/2007

gtlaw1

sorry, but the best swap would be to get rid of the slush box

JDMhon

screw automatic learn how to drive standard!! better in every way...

mikeycivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gtlaw1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry, but the best swap would be to get rid of the slush box</TD></TR></TABLE>

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DesioMedia

IMO the best swap for an auto car would be the VW 2.0t DSG. Think a ~230 hp computer controled manual. Lots of tuner parts and can easily make ~300hp on stock internals w/ just a chip.

If you want to stay honda, swap in a manual.

Libertariat

b18b, auto.

And leave it stock.

Auto tranny's will take a crap without beefier differentials. Not to mention be slow and have hella long gear ratios.

geckoboy86

i have a d15b8 engine in my auto civic. when i do my swap i plan to stay auto and either go with a jdm d15b which has stronger internals.

to the other forum members, stop telling him to go manual. he clearly stated that he doesnt want that. some people just dont like a manuals for certian reasons. i got tired of having to shift all the time. with all that said, either post something useful or dont post at all.

97Ej6mike

You can find B16's that have auto trannys (del sol i think?) But even then their still sloppy and slow. I would kno, a kid we knew had a B16 that was auto, and most of us were rockin SOHC at the time, and we left him in the dust allot, lol. Swap to manuel!

Libertariat

The USDM Del sol VTEC which had the b16 only came in a 5spd.

To my knowledge no obd1/obd2 b16 came with an auto tranny.

Besides a b18b with an auto ls tranny might smack around a stock b16.


Modified by ek forever guy at 3:46 PM 6/1/2007

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Del sol VTEC which had the b16 only came in a 5spd.

To my knowledge no obd1/obd2 b16 came with an auto tranny.

Besides a b18b with an auto ls tranny might smack around a stock b16.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There are 5G and 6G Civics with auto B16s in Japan.

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There are 5G and 6G Civics with auto B16s in Japan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was referring to USDM del sols, I fixed it.

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was referring to USDM del sols, I fixed it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was replying to this part:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To my knowledge no obd1/obd2 b16 came with an auto tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I understood the OP (and therefore I thought you too) were talking about USDM del Sols.

I was just clearing up that there are OBD1 and OBD2 auto B16s out there though.

lovey408

i've heard that there are gsr auto transmissions.. so a gsr wuldnt be bad.. or wudnt a k series auto work? or a H series? iono but its a suggestion

NOFX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lovey408 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've heard that there are gsr auto transmissions.. so a gsr wuldnt be bad.. or wudnt a k series auto work? or a H series? iono but its a suggestion</TD></TR></TABLE>
No USDM auto GSR. The OP's best bet would be a B18B auto transmission or an overseas B16A auto transmission.

A K-series would be expensive and the auto transmission would have to come from the RSX if it's US. The H23 has an auto. I don't know about issues that H-series engines and transmissions might have though.

SoullessJapaneseMachine

iTrader: (1)

he said he wants to keep it auto.

if thats the case, go with an accord engine...at least youll have some torque

NOFX

Well, it's difficult to point out the "best" engine anyway. We don't really know what he's looking to get out of it.

HiProfile

Turbo ftw. The added load of the trans will help build boost, will always provide a load between shifts (no lost boost), and will be cheap to replace as its still a d-series auto.

Otherwise, there really is no better swap than to a manual gearbox.

Libertariat

^^ well, he'll still need beefy differentials and likely stronger axles.

ifIexplode

I beleive that by the time you source an auto b16 tranny. Or figure out how to run both ECU's for an LS swap. (one for the motor, and another for the tranny).. you could have done a 5speed swap, regardless if you wanted to keep the automatic.


are EX/DX auto transmissions the same gearing?
Unlike the 5speed.

Eran

iTrader: (1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ifIexplode &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or figure out how to run both ECU's for an LS swap. (one for the motor, and another for the tranny).</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you talking about?

You get an automatic B18B1 with an auto-tranny with an auto ecu.

ifIexplode

Well, Thanks for correcting me.
When my car was Automatic i was too lookin for a swap with keeping it auto.
I looked into a b18 and only found anwsers about Two ECU's
In what cases do you need dual computers?

Eran

iTrader: (1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ifIexplode &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, Thanks for correcting me.
When my car was Automatic i was too lookin for a swap with keeping it auto.
I looked into a b18 and only found anwsers about Two ECU's
In what cases do you need dual computers? </TD></TR></TABLE>

None. If your car is auto, just get everything from an automatic Integra RS/GS/LS/SE that matches the OBD of your vehicle.

FullRaceHonda

you could put always try out a automatic gsr swap and tell everyone how that works out, or an auto b16 or ls

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by srehtorblos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
all del sols sold in australia were b16 powered. they were sold as both auto and manual </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The USDM Del sol VTEC which had the b16 only came in a 5spd.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Boost_V

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbo ftw. The added load of the trans will help build boost, will always provide a load between shifts (no lost boost), and will be cheap to replace as its still a d-series auto.

Otherwise, there really is no better swap than to a manual gearbox.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with this if you really want to stay auto. There are advantages with having auto in some cases, i guess especially if it's your DD. I'm guessing that's why you want to keep it auto, it's your DD???