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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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hey guys, i found a deal for 1000$ with installation for just a gsr block, im keeping my b16a2 head along with the stock 99 si tranny, im just wondering if 1000$ is worth it, and if someone could tell me an estimate on quarter mile times or 0-60

0-60 right now on my stock si it runs about 6.7 seconds.

(intake, exhaust, will put on exedy stage 2 with swap, ligther flywheel, 17 inch roja rims in grip A toyo tires. lets say im a good driver and its like 60 degrees outside on dry pavement.)

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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uh...no
do it yourself for free
its easier than swapping trailing arms imo
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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yea i dont have a garage and the proper skills, so i have to get someone to do it, the gsr block is like 500 bucks they want like 500 for installation.

is it worth it?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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i think 500 for a short block is high...
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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my friend did that and wasnt happy with the performace unless you put some type-r pistons
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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shortblock is just the block itself right? im not sure. but the 500$ is for not just the block, it comes with pistons and rods and all that good stuff, basically a gsr swap without the head/tranni. im still kind of new to swaps so just tell me what u think
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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really? why wasnt he happy with performance? if u have aim could u im me at xhaughtsaucex thats for 210EGhatch, i just wanna ask you about ur friend.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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short block is a comlete bottom end
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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iight kool, so what u think a good price is for the shortblock and installation then?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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cant comment on installation...

I paid $100 for an LS short block last summer...I personally wouldnt pay anymore than $300-400, depending on the year/condition.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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lets say its like a 1997 block with 50 thousand miles, how much would u pay?. and i thought the gsr blocks were a lot better with better pistons and everything.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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still stand by my pricing
and I certainly would want to see it first
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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yea im scared of getting scammed, but lets say i got the swap, would there be a big difference in performance?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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not $1000 worth, no
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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k hb if i got it for like 800 with installation, could u jsut compare my car to a few other in performance with the block swap
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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he wasnt happy because he was still being pulled by GSR's, my brother had this set up in his 00 SI, but he had type-r pistons and a worked head.....i dont think youll get the power you think youll get out of it by just swaping bottom ends, just a little more tq.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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i dont understand how he was being pulled by gsrs with the 00 si tranny. do the math
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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so how much of an improvement should i see with the gsr shortblock
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock99si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so how much of an improvement should i see with the gsr shortblock</TD></TR></TABLE>

15 pound feet of torque through all RPM. Maybe .3/.4 seconds in the quarter.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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icic not bad, so i should beat a gsr then pretty easily?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock99si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">icic not bad, so i should beat a gsr then pretty easily?</TD></TR></TABLE>

In your pig of an Si, you won't be able to beat a GSR "pretty easily" until you put huge cams or forced induction on your powerplant.

A GSR runs mid-to-low-15's stock with some I/H/E guys dipping into the high 14's. You car runs mid-to-low 15's with I/H/E and a decent driver. It will always be a driver's race between the two cars.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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lol y u callin my car a pig, i have intake and exhaust and i consider myself a good drive i just need to perfect ymy launch.

and i was taking about my car with the gsr short block, i would go high 14's right?


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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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would i go high 14's with the gsr block ?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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i feel like you already made up your mind and you are trying to make up ours aswell.

if you have the money, and something is wrong with your bottom end get it done.

if nothing is wrong with yours at all dont worry about it, as you wont be like OHHHH this ISH is so much faster now.


thats just my opinion though.

also, i would say the pricing seems rather fair, especially if you dont live on the west coast.

you know what a GSR longblock goes for, and what the head goes for, so take the price of the head from the longblock and that leaves you well over a grand still just for the shortblock, i say price is pretty good. (then again, here on the east coast we pay $700 for an Dseries longblock)
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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nothing is wrong with my bottom end, but my simple question is would i beat a gsr quartermile with the gsr shortblock?
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