im building an ls/vtec and trying to decide on a Intake Manifold.

Im using CTR cams, os P30 pistons.

What IM would work best? I can get an ITR IM for around $100, or should I jsut get an AEBS or BLOX?

I have a friend with CTR cams and AEBS IM and his put down 197whp.

 

get the blox since it's cheap and a copy of the skunk2 which is a copy of the itr

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1233581

i'd go blox

 

ported P30 if ur not gonna overrev is probably your best bet with that set up.

 

i have a AEBS. i dont have that many problems with it. i wish i knew if is was weldable so i could try and port it all the way up the runners

 

Which Intake Manifold Did you end up getting? What size tb did you get?

 

skunk2 is same as ITR . i am using oem ITR intake manifold with 68 mm skunk2 throttle body.

 

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no its not. ive measured an itr, aebs and s2. they are all different. the s2/blox/whomeverelse, may look like the itr...... but, are not of the same spec.

 

aebs and blox are both replicas of the itr manifold so just go with what evers cheaper.......and the new skunk2 manifold is better then the itr manifold

 

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no its not. ive measured an itr, aebs and s2. they are all different. the s2/blox/whomeverelse, may look like the itr...... but, are not of the same spec. </TD></TR></TABLE>

...so what were your measurments for all three manifolds? (ITR, S2, BLOX)

 

blox

 

go with the AEBS it is the best for the money alll day.... and get the tb that comes with it ...

 

1.8liter? PerformerX &gt; anything you listed.

 

i think the op abandoned this thread with his decision.

anyway, i chose the aebs manifold for the p72 gsr head because it was the only one that was actually made for the gsr. the runner angles actually align with the steeper gsr intake ports. doesn't that annoy people with the skunk and blox?

 

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anyway, i chose the aebs manifold for the p72 gsr head because it was the only one that was actually made for the gsr. the runner angles actually align with the steeper gsr intake ports. doesn't that annoy people with the skunk and blox?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah... it sucks when people hear what they want, they stop listening to everything else, even though it could benefit them or someone they know, later on down the road.

Im surprised S2 didnt acknowledge the steeper ports for their exclusisve GS-R/P72 "ITR style" manifold?... or did they? BLOX is pretty reputable for being a fairly new Co. I think their prices would be the lowest, next to just buying the OEM ITR manny if you find one. Everyone claims to be an ITR replica but Im sure they all differ, even if its minimal.

I will be using an OEM ITR manny(portmatched to 65mm)/TB(ported to 65mm/70mm tapered) on my b16a, I will let you know the results when I install them... probably when its dry out!

 

lol. sorry for abandoning this thread. I abandoned the the ls/vtec build at the time.

BUT!!! I have recently started another one.

Here are the specs:

B18a Block
OS P30 Pistons
ARP Rod Bolts
ITR Oil Pump
OEM Honda Bearings

01 ITR Head
01 ITR Cams
01 ITR Valve springs
3 angle valve job
ITR Intake Manifold
ITR Throttle Body
ITR Injectors
ITR Fuel Rail

STRUP JDM ITR 2.5" 4-1 Header with 2.5" collector
Carsound 2.5" High Flow Catalytic Converter

I ordered all BRAND NEW parts. The motor is going to be 100% brand new. Nothing will be reused.


I have been thinking whether or not to sell the ITR intake manifold and buy a Skunk2 ProSeries intake manifold. I have heard and read great things about them. If I can find a good deal on a new or used one, I think I may pick it up and sell the ITR one.

My goal is 210whp tuned with either Hondata S100/S200/S300, whichever I can get the best deal/cheapest on. (I don't care about data logging, drag launch, etc.. I just want something so I can have my tuner do the best job and that is it. Not looking to change anything after that, that is why I have the S100 in the list).

 

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anyway, i chose the aebs manifold for the p72 gsr head because it was the only one that was actually made for the gsr. the runner angles actually align with the steeper gsr intake ports. doesn't that annoy people with the skunk and blox?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if thats the case, then anyone with a gsr head should go with the aebs over sk2 or blox? i've been wanting to get a new intake mani to replace my oem gsr mani, and i guess aebs would be the only one to get?

 

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if thats the case, then anyone with a gsr head should go with the aebs over sk2 or blox? i've been wanting to get a new intake mani to replace my oem gsr mani, and i guess aebs would be the only one to get?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who knows, we may be talking about a couple hp here, or not. Consider the aebs mani is uglier than the others, requires some work to get the ports to align with the head properly, and who knows which mani may work better with which parts and at what optimal powerband location.

I think the aebs claimed 3 - 8krpm powerband design. I just installed mine finally, and i'm adding some ctr cams now too. We'll see..

 

skunk2 casting is better quality then blox. I don't care if anyone says It's the same **** IT'S NOT!! I had both intake manifolds and skunk2 was better.

 

I think 210whp will be HARD to achieve with oem cams/non-ported head/oem injectors/TB/2.5 cat...


Looks like a solid oem build.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kabaroo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think 210whp will be IMPOSSIBLE to achieve with oem cams/non-ported head/oem injectors/TB/2.5 cat...


Looks like a solid oem build.</TD></TR></TABLE>

fixed.

 

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Looks like a solid oem build.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well my buddy got 197whp with a B16 head, AEBS IM, H22 TB, Comptech 4-2-1 Header, CTR Cams, ITR dual valvesprings, block and everything else built the same.

So if he can get 197 with his comptech header that has a 2" collector and a b16 head, I think my ITR head that comes ported from the factory and STRUP JDM ITR header that is truly 2.5" from start to finish, I should be able to get close. As long as I pass 200whp, anything after that would be bonus. But 210 is still what I am hoping.

 

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Note how i list numerous items that would hold him back. Honestly 200 will be hard... If you do make 200, go to the track and back it up!

 

We'll I've added RC 310 injectors and I am considering a Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold and maybe a Hytech Replica Header.

Do you think a Skunk2 Pro Series IM would be better than an ITR IM?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We'll I've added RC 310 injectors and I am considering a Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold and maybe a Hytech Replica Header.

Do you think a Skunk2 Pro Series IM would be better than an ITR IM?</TD></TR></TABLE>

YES!