i just got a OBD2 swap from a wrecked teg (still drives). what should i know? i can take <U>anything</U> from the running teg for the swap. will the teg shift linkage and motor mounts work? i hear different things about using the teg shift linkage. i hear that the shift linkage will work, but not as well as a si civic shift linkage.

i have a delsol S (EG) d-series. so will the stock mounts from the swap work? what else should i know about smoging/ installing a ODB2 B18c1? thanks!




Modified by 3rdgencrx at 4:55 PM 2/19/2007

 

search.... topic has been covered a million times

 

i've searched back about 15 pages and still have not seen answers, if you know please share the knowledge.

i know searching is important but i see nothing that covers my specific swap questions.

 

1- You need to go to Honda and buy Del Sol VTEC shiftlinkage. Its going to be a little over $200. A lot of people will tell you that you can get the AVID shiftlinkage, but its "race" linkage and costs around $500. You could custom make it from the del sol and integra linkage, but seeing as you're asking how to do a swap, Im guessing your fabbing skills are less then perfect, so dont! Do it right ONCE!

2- You're going to need a Conversion harness becuase you're going from obd1 to obd2.

3- You're going from a non-vtec car to a vtec car so you will have to wire for vtec. On top of which, its a gsr and you will need to wire for butterflies (secondaries). Not a biggy, but it should be done.

4- It would be a good idea to get a larger fuel pump.

5- All your mounts will work, but because your car is a little older, so Im guessing your mounts are kinda dry-rotted. I suggest replacing them with the teg ones.

6- You will have to mod the exhaust to fit the del sol. It WILL be a little off. You can buy a carsound cat with a movable sphericale flange, or just take it to a exhaust shop and have them fix it. It would be around $40 to have an exhaust shop fix it.

Off the Integra you will need:
-Mounts (If they're there for free, take them!)
-Motor/trans
-Wiring harness
-Rubber peices from shift linkage
-Header
-Cat (because obd2 has 2 oxygen sensors)
-Axels
-ECU
-Rad Hoses

Note: You will be replacing a lot of fluids during the swap. I always replace everything with Honda Genuine fluids (except motor oil). It gets pricey, but if you really care about the car, and its condition; its the right thing to do. The best motor oil IMHO is Royal Purple with a Hamp oil filter. Its pricey, but worth it. You dont have to do any of this, I'm just **** about my car and only put the best (in my mind) in it.

Good luck! Keep us posted

 

thank you 93eg2james!

one thing though... i can take anything from the teg so do i still need a conversion harness?

 

If I was to do this swap I would sell the OBD2 ECU, and get a P72 OBD1 ECU that way I wouldnt need to get a conversion harness to run a OBD2 ECU, and OBD1 ECU is easier to tune with being that it is able to be chip. oh and the only different thing between OBD2 and OBD1 sensor plug is just Injectors and Dizzy, considering your car is running 240cc injectors and the GSR has 240cc also you can just swap them, the only thing you would have to deal with is the dizzy, then you can have the motor running OBD1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RJonathan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I was to do this swap I would sell the OBD2 ECU, and get a P72 OBD1 ECU that way I wouldnt need to get a conversion harness to run a OBD2 ECU, and OBD1 ECU is easier to tune with being that it is able to be chip.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the engine harness is still an obd2 harness. of you wanted to turn the WHOLE THING over to obd1 you would need an obd1 alternator, injector clips, injectors, dizzy, and obd1 harness, and obviously the p72.

 

you dont need the conversion harness unless you plan on running the obd2 ecu.

also, he said your mounts will work, but i think you need the rear T bracket and the tranny mount from the teg. not sure though, so hopefully he explains better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you dont need the conversion harness unless you plan on running the obd2 ecu.

also, he said your mounts will work, but i think you need the rear T bracket and the tranny mount from the teg. not sure though, so hopefully he explains better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, i thought the same, but you dont. all the stock mounts will work just fine. I read somewhere that only the integra style mounts on '94+ models would work, but it was a bunch of bull. stock del sol ones on the 93 arnt aluminum like the teg ones, thats all.

 

but... i have a d series mounts now

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 3rdgencrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but... i have a d series mounts now </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes stock mounts on a 93 Del Sol S are mounts for the d15b7, these mounts will work for the b18c1. I suggest you use the ones from the Integra becuase they're probably in better shape.

 

i'm shocked i had no idea.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93eg2james &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes stock mounts on a 93 Del Sol S are mounts for the d15b7, these mounts will work for the b18c1. I suggest you use the ones from the Integra becuase they're probably in better shape.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Yeah, I thought the same as you, but when i did my swap I wanted to see because I see endless threads about this topic. It works with either set of mounts with no complications what-so-ever. Sits the same and everyhthing.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 3rdgencrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm shocked i had no idea. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha just like hasport wanted!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93eg2james &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I thought the same as you, but when i did my swap I wanted to see because I see endless threads about this topic. It works with either set of mounts with no complications what-so-ever. Sits the same and everyhthing.

haha just like hasport wanted!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

interesting thanks for that info!

 

OOOOOHHHHHH you have a Del Sol S!!! That has no power steering and the gsr motor does! You could take the power steering rack from the gsr and a few other odds and ends to make it work, but its a lot of work!

I want that power steering bracket if you dont use it! I just did my b20vtec swap and no longet have powersteering cause the b20 one doesnt fit the gsr head. Ill buy yours!!

 

but doesnt the D series rear mount on a B series only allow for 1 bolt to be used???

ALSO: the teg radiator hoses wont work unless you are running a teg full size radiator. grab some del sol vtec hoses from a parts store.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93eg2james &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OOOOOHHHHHH you have a Del Sol S!!! That has no power steering and the gsr motor does! You could take the power steering rack from the gsr and a few other odds and ends to make it work, but its a lot of work!

I want that power steering bracket if you dont use it! I just did my b20vtec swap and no longet have powersteering cause the b20 one doesnt fit the gsr head. Ill buy yours!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes sir, as i see it now i don't need the power steering or AC. i'll keep you posted when i remove the motor and do the swap.

 

sickness!!!!!! you're my hero!!!

to bad we didnt live closer together. photoshoot! dohcvtec sols!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but doesnt the D series rear mount on a B series only allow for 1 bolt to be used???

ALSO: the teg radiator hoses wont work unless you are running a teg full size radiator. grab some del sol vtec hoses from a parts store.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mount or L-bracket? Either way, no, they're the same. I know from personal experience, Im not just spreading misinfo.

And the rad hose thing is a no go. I used samco teg hoses on a stock del sol rad an it fit without binding up or pinching.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93eg2james &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mount or L-bracket? Either way, no, they're the same. I know from personal experience, Im not just spreading misinfo.

And the rad hose thing is a no go. I used samco teg hoses on a stock del sol rad an it fit without binding up or pinching.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good deal, im not saying you are wrong, just asking cuz i have heard differant, obviously you have first hand experience with this swap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

good deal, im not saying you are wrong, just asking cuz i have heard differant, obviously you have first hand experience with this swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i didnt mean to sound like an jerk if i did. Just trying to help

 

nah, you didnt.

 

is this the harness i need?

http://www.xenocron.com/produc...rness

 

ok i probably have a dumb question about the whole conversion harness. do i need to use one if i use the teg ECU? am i missing something? i have a feeling i am. is anyone willing to educate a slow person? lol thanks.

 

that harness is for a 96-98 to run an obd1 ecu, which is the opposite of what you need.

you might need to call or email chris (xenocron) as i dont see the harness you need, or know if its even available. you need one that will go from OBD1 to OBD2a.