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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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is a unsprung disc or solid disc to harsh for the street?..for daily driving?
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snowbunny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is a unsprung disc or solid disc to harsh for the street?..for daily driving?
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i think its too harsh unless all you do is comptete and win money to fix your car. i had full disk unsprung, it would always grip but it would engage more harsh. if you know how to shift, its really not needed, not when most of the driving consist of street driving.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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yup imo unsprung dics suck very badly on the street my boy had on on his eg hatch and i hated driven his car becuase of it.i rather have 4 or 6 puck sprung dics. now i see why they put OFFROAD/RACE USE ONLY on them clutch boxes.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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eww not kool
maybe ill get a sprung one then
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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lol yea i mean dont get me wrong for straight drag racing it be great to use cause your trailering your car to the track but as for everyday not good ideal.even my boys get a sprung one this time.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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i love my unsprung...drive it all over.

havent thought about it...doesnt bother me
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .EnzoSpeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">T You'll never feel the difference between a sprung/unsprung hub - only your trans will.

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I have driven with both clutches on the same setup.. 6puck sprung vs 6puck unsprung, and i DO notice a difference.. you tard.

Id go unsprung, you will get used to it in no time.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Yes I've driven both as well and I prefer the sprung disc as well. If you can't feel the difference, then you must not be talking about the same thing...........
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have driven with both clutches on the same setup.. 6puck sprung vs 6puck unsprung, and i DO notice a difference.. you tard.

Id go unsprung, you will get used to it in no time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

once u get use to it it will be ok.with unsprung u get chattering like a bitch so dont listen to .enzospeed.but some people like them some dont depends on how u like it.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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I think it depends, which brand you use.
I had a Clutch specialties unsprung 6 puck and it has the same or less clutch chatter then another brands sprung disk 6 puck clutch. Both grabbed really hard between shifts when racing.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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my action 2md (unsprung 6 puck) does not chatter at all. it engages like a light switch but once you get used to it there's no problem. It's my daily driver and I like it.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:14 AM
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also remember unsprung clutches but more stress on the drivetrain
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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they are harsh on engaugment,drivetrain.. flywheel and pressure plate.... most of the time depending on the material used for the pads, they will eat into your pressure plate and flywheel, sometimes leaving them unuseable

but if you need one you need one
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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I got the 6 puck unsprung on my current setup.

I would not buy it again, it is harsh daily driving. Get used to chatter, its your best friend. Now launching it is the ****, but daily driving sucks.

My next will be a sprung clutch again.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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im running the stage 3 clutchmasters carbon kevlar sprung full race race disc. theres a guy on here running the same clutch with a k20 turbo making 450whp and 320tq... thats pretty impressive

if you are looking for an alternative
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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[QUOTE=mike1114]I got the 6 puck unsprung on my current setup.

Now launching it is the ****,

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thats the only good i see in a unsprung dics.them bitches grab hard as ****

they are harsh on engaugment,drivetrain.. flywheel and pressure plate.... most of the time depending on the material used for the pads, they will eat into your pressure plate and flywheel, sometimes leaving them unuseable


yea cause they just slam up against the flywheel.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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you've only got to have one disk come apart to where you never have to ask this question again.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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sprung hubs don't make your clutch engage more smoothly, even though 90% of you think so. But they do break all the time
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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The reason for sprung hubs is to reduce noise. It has nothing to do with engagement. Go call any clutch manufacturer and ask them.

I drive on the street all the time with an unsprung ACT 6puck.. there is no chatter.. you guys just need to learn the sweet spot of the clutch.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Default Re: unsprung hub clutches?? (mike1114)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My next will be a sprung clutch again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hope you're not planning to make a lot of hp/tq.. those springs like to come out.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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with aftermarket motor mounts those can also make chatter less of a problem as the harder bushing makes everything alot more firm, that can possibly eliminate chatter...
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 04:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STD ONEpointSIX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The reason for sprung hubs is to reduce noise. It has nothing to do with engagement. Go call any clutch manufacturer and ask them.

I drive on the street all the time with an unsprung ACT 6puck.. there is no chatter.. you guys just need to learn the sweet spot of the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea when i drove a hatch with one a had people looking at me like thet car was falling apart.that 4puck unspurn clutch was loud as ****.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sprung hubs don't make your clutch engage more smoothly, even though 90% of you think so. But they do break all the time </TD></TR></TABLE>

Care to explain your self, and what company your talking about? I've never have a problem with ACT in any way, sprung or unsprung!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STD ONEpointSIX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hope you're not planning to make a lot of hp/tq.. those springs like to come out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What clutch company have you personally seen the springs just fall out? I'm willing to bet that if you are running a clutch disc under the rated torque, then you will never have a problem with a sprung disc from a reputable company. Of course there will be defects every now and again, but you should'nt have a problem; a lot of people just keep pushing a clutch way pased it's rated TQ, and this is when you run into problem!
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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my ACT unsprung never squealed, but it definitely chatters more than the sprung version. I definitely prefer the sprung 6 puck from ACT..........
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugencrxsir1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Care to explain your self, and what company your talking about? I've never have a problem with ACT in any way, sprung or unsprung!

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Iv installed like 50 puck clutches...so all brands i guess. I would say 80% of the broken clutches i was replacing were from the springs breaking in some fashion. Personally i ran the unsprung ACT R6 disc in my d16t and i run one now on my b16t. The first one was quiet the one i have now squeals if you slip it a lot, i assume because of a more (all?) metallic puck composition. Im still happy with it though, I can have a reasonable pedal, less rotating mass, and great holding power.
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