I usually just lurk, but i finally decided to join. Iv been saving up to do something fun for spring break, but i think im just going to do a swap on my car(a 94 Ej1 EX with the D16). I only about $4000 to spend so my dream of swapping a k series is out of a question for now. I just want something a bit more powerful and fun to drive then my D. i was think'n about a GSR, but i want to know what you guys think.

heres a few pix of her so far...(i have different wheels now too but i don't have any pix of em yet)





and my favorite shot...

 

jdm gsr...i got mine from hmotors for 3600 with shipping and LSD...complete changeover

 

save an extra ~2k and get the K series...otherwise i'd go jdm b16 w/ lsd...you wont be disapointed

 

BOOST the D

 

i don't want a turbo motor right now, too unreliable. this is my daily so i need something that i don't have to fix something every week.

 

b16

 

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your crazy b16's all motor are almost useless in anything but a light eg or ef..spend the exttra dough and get a gsr it will be fun

 

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Just because you won't have a turbo motor, doesn't mean it's not gonig to give you problems. The second you change anything on your car you open up the possibility for stuff to break. Used motors from japan are exactly that, used. They may have the **** beaten out of them, and some may be basically new. So just be aware, you're swapping a motor, stuff is always liable to break. If you're not prepared for those consequences, then don't do it, or get another car. If you're cool with that, then i vote turbo D. I've driven K, gsr, b16 and i would still take a turbo d series any day over them because of the price. You could just buy a turbo kit and pay someone to tune it even and have a good hunk of change left over. Plus i'm willing to bet i'll be damn reliable long as you maintain it and tune it well

 

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Just because you won't have a turbo motor, doesn't mean it's not gonig to give you problems. The second you change anything on your car you open up the possibility for stuff to break. Used motors from japan are exactly that, used. They may have the **** beaten out of them, and some may be basically new. So just be aware, you're swapping a motor, stuff is always liable to break. If you're not prepared for those consequences, then don't do it, or get another car. If you're cool with that, then i vote turbo D. I've driven K, gsr, b16 and i would still take a turbo d series any day over them because of the price. You could just buy a turbo kit and pay someone to tune it even and have a good hunk of change left over. Plus i'm willing to bet i'll be damn reliable long as you maintain it and tune it well </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well put

However if you opt to stay NA I am sold on the H series powerplant. I have one in my 93 Hatch...excellent. If you do whatever swap you decide the RIGHT way, you will have very few problems if any.. no matter if it's NA, FI, or freaking jetpowered

edit: I have some friends with Boosted D series and I am quite impressed.

 

dude put an SR20 in

 

haHA in all reality though... do a d series turbo, i opted for B16 swap and im happy and all, but expletive it, on a turbo car you can always crank up boost and KEEP IT WELL TUNED... most important **** ever.... ever... good luck bish, on whatever you choose

 

Honestly Turbo is the way to do it. You can build yourself a custom turbo kit for about $1,000. Then have your P28 chipped with Uberdata or Neptune and get a dyno tune for 190WHP or so. With proper fuel system upgrades (injectors and a walbro 255) your car will be just as reliable as it is now. You make one WOT pull with the Boosted D and you will see what TQ is, and youll be hooked on boost. Say you spend $2,000 on a nice turbo kit and fuel mods and tuning......Youre making much more power than a B18, and you saves some money.

 

if i do turbo the d, im guess'n i have to rebuild my motor. and if i do, what parts should i use? what pistons/rods/ turbo and things would work best? iv never built a turbo motor so i don't know. and how much would it all run?

 

for 4k you might be able to pick up a used used type r motor itr or ctr, if you can, DO IT! dont listen to people who say its a waste of money, i have one and its worth every penny and your getting a sick as tranny with dual synchros and LSD!!

 

boost the d and drop that sucker!

 

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not a bad idea considering i have sohc RH turbo kit for sale, see sig, but my real op is get a itr or ctr motor...

 

i would first get suspension. than boost the d.

 

save another grand and get yourself an itr over at h motors i believe its like 5 G's if not go with the jdm gsr pls dont turbo your single cam, it wont last you unlike an itr or gsr seems like your haveing some trouble putting out that 4G's so if i were you i would go with the reliable stock fun and still pretty quick itr or gsr hondas come N/A from the factory lets keep it that way!!

 

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LS7!

 

i'd say turbo ur d series. The money u spend swapping a motor in with comparison to a turbo kit is huge. you'll spend like 3 grand on ur swap. And you'll spend like 1,500 on a good turbo kit and tune. And you'll be way faster than a stock b-series. I mean ****.. u can get 220 hp on a d-series stock block and head. maybe more. anf if u ever break ur stock motor.. it'll only be like 250 bucks for a new one as opposed to ur 3000 motor.

 

Should have been a poll .

Though seeing as you want to stay naturally aspired, GSR's got my vote.

Bit expensive (opposed to the B16), but it's definitely a good all around/daily driver motor that's got some kick to it.

 

^^^what he said...i went with a jdm sir swap.....impressing, but not like a gsr....get the gsr swap

 

JDM B16 w/ LSD? Pffffffffft my friend has that same setup in a coupe and wow is he ever disappointed, that thing is dirt slow, never settle for less than 1.8 liters...

 

I am with everyone on boosting the D, but considering you want to stay NA go with a GSR.

As far as finding a motor. Instead of going to HMO look for a full car that way you get the motor, seats, brakes, etc. You will be able to sell the shell/part it out when you are done.

 

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As far as finding a motor. Instead of going to HMO look for a full car that way you get the motor, seats, brakes, etc. You will be able to sell the shell/part it out when you are done. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah but with that u lose the guarantee that somebody didn't beat the **** outta it every single day :-\.

That's my only problem with buying locally rather than a store. You don't get the guarantee, there's no 100% startup guarantee, nothing that says they have to give you ur money back if they screwed you. You take your chances.