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Old May 7, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Default Brake Fluid for Track/ and daily driving?

something that will hold up to daily driving and once every 2 months track lapping sessions..

motul?

something that doesnt have to be bled alot i'd hope...

just looking for suggestions....

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Old May 7, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Believe it or not, I've had good luck with Ford High Performance Brake Fluid for double duty use - available at almost any Ford dealer.

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Old May 7, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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ATE superblue is good stuff...
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Old May 7, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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I only bleed Motul when it gets spongy, which is extremely rare.

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Old May 7, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Brake Fluid for Track/ and daily driving? (Warren)

so u use it daily? and for track?

how rare is rare?

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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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I've been using that Valvoline SynPower fluid. Does pretty good at the track for two days w/no bleeding. Budget too. Plenty for the street. Don't spend big $$$ for fancy fluid. Unless you're racing.

I've even heard that some race fluids are not good for the street, where they're run longer intervals. They're designed to give lots of performance now....not later. YMMV.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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I run ATE SuperBlue and/or Motul 600 in all my cars, street, track, or race. Bleed before events (and during if needed), other than that, no problems.
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Old May 7, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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I use it in my E30 M3 & ITR. Rare is like 3 times a year.

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Old May 7, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Brake Fluid for Track/ and daily driving? (Warren)

I like Motul RBF 600.

Here are the dry and wet boiling points for many of the most popular brake fluids:

ARRANGED BY DRY BOILING POINT:

DRY:401F -- WET:284F --- DOT3 MINIMUM
DRY:446F -- WET:311F --- DOT4 MINIMUM
DRY:500F -- WET:356F --- DOT5 MINIMUM
DRY:502F -- WET:343F --- VALVOLINE SYNPOWER
DRY:509F -- WET:365F --- MOTUL 5.1
DRY:527F -- WET:302F --- AP RACING 551
DRY:536F -- WET:392F --- ATE SUPERBLUE/TYP200
DRY:590F -- WET:410F --- AP RACING 600
DRY:590F -- WET:518F --- CASTROL SRF
DRY:593F -- WET:420F --- MOTUL RBF600
DRY:610F -- WET:421F --- NEO-SYNTHETIC SUPER DOT 610


ARRANGED BY WET BOILING POINT:

DRY:401F -- WET:284F --- DOT3 MINIMUM
DRY:527F -- WET:302F --- AP RACING 551
DRY:446F -- WET:311F --- DOT4 MINIMUM
DRY:502F -- WET:343F --- VALVOLINE SYNPOWER
DRY:500F -- WET:356F --- DOT5 MINIMUM
DRY:509F -- WET:365F --- MOTUL 5.1
DRY:536F -- WET:392F --- ATE SUPERBLUE/TYP200
DRY:590F -- WET:410F --- AP RACING 600
DRY:593F -- WET:420F --- MOTUL RBF600
DRY:610F -- WET:421F --- NEO-SYNTHETIC SUPER DOT 610
DRY:590F -- WET:518F --- CASTROL SRF
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Old May 8, 2002 | 08:17 AM
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Are you sure?!? Works fine for me! See below

search sucks :-P
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=165361
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Old May 8, 2002 | 09:15 AM
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I love motul
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Old May 8, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Valvoline SynPower works for me, occasional track, mostly street.
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Old May 8, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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Default just thought of something.....

will motul rbf 600 work with ABS??

casue i was looking at their website and it says i should use motul 5.1??

whats the deals?

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Old May 8, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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Works fine with my ABS.
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Old May 8, 2002 | 06:40 PM
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I really like the performance of the Motul. What I don't care for is that it's 3-4X as much as the Valvoline synthetic. It's also hard to find, whereas I can go to Walmart RIGHT NOW and buy as many bottles of Valvoline that I can carry. The Motul also soaks up water like crazy because it's a racing fluid, and they didn't put much of whatever they put in brake fluid to keep it from absorbing water because they know racers are going to bleed their brakes all the time (yes I know that's one long damn run-on sentence).

After a weekend at VIR south (hard on brakes!), my brake pedal is rock damn solid with the Valvoline. It works great, it's cheap and it's readily availible.

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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:55 AM
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Use the Ate on the street and track.
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:18 PM
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ATE blue here , all day every day , good luck findinf it now though since they changed to all gold production , same properties just D.O.T legal
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Old May 9, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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Default Re: just thought of something..... (2000EX)

will motul rbf 600 work with ABS??

casue i was looking at their website and it says i should use motul 5.1??

whats the deals?
I already told you.

Motul 600.

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Old May 9, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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I'm planning a switch to RBF600 after boiling my ATE superblue twice on the track. Singed my arm good bleeding my brakes at the track.
My rotors read off the dial (>600deg) while the Porsche parked next to me read a cool 3xx deg. Not fair.

After making some calls, I found a few bottles of motul at a motorcycle shop.

Not to mention, my dealer freaked when he saw blue liquid in my reservoir. "Is that dye? Is is dot5?" ...

-allen
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Old May 9, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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Default Re: just thought of something..... (MaddMatt)

The Motul also soaks up water like crazy because it's a racing fluid
Not true. Check the figures and you'll find that the boiling point of the Motul fluid is higher than the Valvoline or the ATE, even when wet.
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Old May 10, 2002 | 05:49 AM
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Actually...the wet figures are at 3% water as a percentage of total weight on the brake fluid...the point is what it is when there is 5%...6%...water in the brake fluid...what is wet boiling point then? Also, Motul 600 will get to 3% moisture absorbtion FASTER than a street fluid, such as Valvoline Synpower, will reach perhaps 1% or 2%...I think you see the relation here.

-Andie


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Old May 10, 2002 | 05:52 AM
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Yea it definately seems like the stated wet BP is total bull. Who knows how much water you have in your system? The only number you can really count on is the dry number.
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