Dr. Phil

I have a 94 ex 2 door 5speed. Which is better for an all motor racecar on throttle bodies?????? And why???? Tried searching, but no luck. Thanks peeps

BluLude

what does on throttle bodies even mean? i would go with k20 but thats one hell of an investment

SuShiBoiiii

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racecar on throttle bodies? are you talking about itbs? and i would go with h22 though its more common its hell of alot cheaper then the k20...but if your stuck with the k20 i would go with the k24/k20 combo though the mounts are still yet to be released to the public

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1750562 check that as well

George Knighton

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Before we go too far with this thread, would you mind tellling us what you mean by racing?

Do you mean NASA Honda Challenge, SCCA road racing, or some kind of drag racing?

I think our answers are going to differ. You mention ITB so I am assuming you do NOT mean Honda Challenge, but it's possible you haven't really investigated the rules thoroughly.

If you're not limited by the kinds of modifications you can do, you will ultimately end up with more power in the K motor.

Many rules limit the K motor modifications, but allow more modifications for H motors. In these cases, like the H1 Honda Challenge rules, you can end up with just as much power in the H motor as you'd have in the K motor, and you will have spent less than half the money.

Dr. Phil

Sorry, I should of explained better. I want itbs and its going to be drag racing/street. I want about 300 to 325hp. Is it possible with any of these motor? I got the money.

George Knighton

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That is more HP than I deal with. I deal with 220-250 HP, and I know that it's attainable with an H22, reliably and much more cheaply than you can get it with a K20.

That extra 50-75 HP you want is making me nervous, though. I think you need to dig up users like Nikos, Mase, Arturbo and PrecisionH23A. They have areas of expertise that would be helpful, and all three of them could also build the motor if you wanted.

Feel free to stop by and read the All Motor Forum for hints.

I hate to flake out on you, but you're asking for more HP than I'm comfortable with, and I'm a road course person, not a drag racer.

STREETWERKZ

for a drag car, i'd ditch the accord and buy and EG, install the k20 and go to town.

Dr. Phil

So what your telling me is h22 all the way?????????

hondaccord

honda tunning just featured a 852 hp civic with the h22. sorry not trying to premot others, but it is in there mag this month.

hb_guy

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yup.. that thing looks pretty beast too

H22

or just boost your f22 like i am doing!!

XiOus271

Im with George on the road course bit, but for you I would say H22 for the time, mostly because of price per horsepower. The K20 is still very expensive, and there is not as much knowledge out there for swapping it into Accords as there is for the H22. Also, I think the H22 can reach those all-motor goals for again, less money. If money, info, and necessary mods were more readily available though, I would definatelly go K24/K20 hybrid... that thing would be a beast in theory.

03K24A4EX

as of now H22 for the win. its a common swap. and the k-swap is more of a headache and costs more.

Dr. Phil

I've heard a few of f22's with turbo and there kind of load when at the red light. Or when on the highway. I just don't like the sound of it. I like the way a wrx sounds or the lancer.

Let me ask you this, f22 with a turbo at 300 to 350hp, is it pretty reliable for a daily driver?????

pos_cd5

[QUOTE=Dr. Phil] I like the way a wrx sounds or the lancer. [QUOTE]

i hate the sound of the wrx's boxer ....back on topic, if your not bounded by budget and $$ i would say go for the K20/24. if you are then get the H22, cheaper, tried and tested to hell and back, reliable, many avaible resources for help and trouble shooting, the list goes on and on for the pros of doing a H22.

dmurphy2k3

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If you have the kind of money you are talking about you could easily build your f and make a very nice turbo setup for it. 300 hp is easily attainable and can be reliable if you get a good tune (EMS if you are willing to shell out the money).

Dr. Phil

Enough said. Thanks guys

JDMcb7coupe

I got a h22 N/A and i love it i pull hella cars but if u got the $ 4 da K i would do it but u should jump on the K24 with type s tranny them k's run hard and Honda's new found glorey. as for the 300 hp a all motor k can make that and 4 the mounts they do have them.