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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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i have 2 choices in front of me. since i already own a D15B. i can take that and boost it, with pistons, rods, cam, and a shot of nitrous, and all the other goodies to make it fast. or i can get a B16 with a Type-R gearbox, chipped ECU, and build on that (which will take more time to save the money).

If i build the D15B i can do it all now.

What do you guys suggest?
How fast can i make the D15B and would it be worth it?
Would i be fun to drive?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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I personally would go with a b16a2.

Why? it's personal preference and I don't want to start a B > D series war but I had a d16z6 and now a b18b from a integra and would take a b-series engine over a d-series anyday.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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b16 perhaps u want to build it in the future too you always have room for that.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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I vote for turbo d15. more usable, streetable torque
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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D15B bro!
if i were going to buy another engine, i would atleast go with a B18.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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b16.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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I do love my little D15B vtec. problem is, is that it is so slow. and i would have to do so much to "maybe" be fast.
from doing my research the D15 block seems weaker. and am so scared of building it and then it blows on me. then all of that money would be wasted.
That is the beef i have and that is why i started this thread.

thanks. please keep the info coming
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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totally understandable.
The thing i love about D series is that they are so cheap and easy to replace if anything gets messed up.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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i would have to say b16. there's always room for tuning.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FastAzzCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The thing i love about D series is that they are so cheap and easy to replace if anything gets messed up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

but he makes alot of sense as well. not only are parts for b-series expensive, but hard to come by.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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turbo d

Have gone down both roads, and my turbo d cost is alot less than the b was and it is a ton more fun!
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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turbo d all the way
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Build a turbo d-series and you will be inpressed if done right.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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..... what kinds of time do the turbo D-series put down?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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times?? anywhere form 30 seconds to some in the 10's

numbers anywhere from 70 to 300+whp
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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sounds like the turbo d will make me smile.
i would like to have my car 11-12 secs . turboed and spraying.... pistons, rods, cam, etc
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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anyone every sprayed on a D? how much is safe ?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Go with B16. In the long run you will have much more power and options. You might even get more horse power out of a swap than you will turboing a little D series motor.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRasta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go with B16. In the long run you will have much more power and options. You might even get more horse power out of a swap than you will turboing a little D series motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Doubt it,not many b series swaps will give you 180+whp. Edelbrock, greddy and jackson racing with low boost and shitty management give you all 170+whp.

dollar for dollar turbo d seires will give you more whp for less cost. You find me a swap that will give me 200+whp for less than 1700.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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b16
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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im gonna be straight and say there is no point in owning a honda unless it has both DOHC and VTEC. plus u can turbo the B down the road
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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b16 even though I'm a SOHC guy now. lol
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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D turbo everyone underestimates them. if done right ull be surprised. just look at bense. that dude took his d15 and is rebuuilding it. when hes done. he will ****** smoke dohc with vtec... if u know how to build a engine u can ****** build the engine. know ur motor and u can pull what u need out of it. umm im not sure how safe it is to spray on a d. shouldnt kill it but that matters to how well built it is and how much ur sprayin. and then r u wanting to do this for daily driving or track only cuz stage2 crower if u dont wanna kill yur MPG. but if yur doing it track only stage3 crower cam. i mean it comes down to alot of ****.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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stage 3 is very streetable, but the 3 wont work well with turbo i dont think. crower ahs a specifica cam for turbo, Stage 2T. check out the F.I. Section at D-series.org, thatll help.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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well guys looks like i have no choice but to go B16 now .....my D15 vtec just died on me
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Well depending on what happend, you can probably build up your D now. I think fate just made your choice easy

What exactly happend?
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