I got a 97 gsr, with stock block, i/h/e skunk2 i.m., edelbrock t.b. rocket valves springs and retainer, eagle cam gears, blox tybe B cams, chipped p28. Its my daily driver, but on the weekends, its driven pretty hard. I was told though, that these cams are too aggressive for my set-up and should get maybe some bc3 or blox type A. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

no it wont.. i have i/h/e and skunk IM on my gsr too and i was thinkin about goin wit blox b but i want more so i got skunk pro1s.. but u should be good wit the blox b

 

there is no such thing as over cammed i dont think.... Just depends where you want ur power band :/

 

When I get my car tuned, what's a safe rev limit, ideal vtec crossover, timing specs, etc? Sorry if these are dumb questions, but im new to tuning and i want as much info as possible so i can know what the heck my tuner is talking about when i go to tune.

 

da tuner should know wen to tune the vtec crossover... redline, i would say makin power up to 8500 or 9000 be goood... also wat header u running???

 

oh yea, da guy dat tunes most honda's where i live, wen he tunes the car, he runs it wit out vtec... he looks for the power dip den he engages the vtec like couple hundred rpm's before the dip so u have no power lost.. dats wat he tells me so i dont know... hope dat helps...

 

I'm using a sorry dc 4-1, till i can save up for something better. which header would be best for daily driver, as far as ground clearance and performance?

 

my brother and a friend running rage headers... its good for the price... u can go to the performance forum on honda-tech and check out the sellers... my friend wit a stock 96 itr in his eg made 191 to da wheels wit jus the rage headers and password whale ***** intake.. he got it tuned.. he made like 174 before tune..

 

I was looking into some rage and rmf headers, thanks for the info!

 

rmf is going to be at least a two month wait.. rage have plenty in stock

 

how much are you getting the blox b cams for?

 

get the type a's. the b's gonna be a little too much. the b's need the compression to get the most power outta it.

 

b's are not overcamming... id seen people make alot of power wit it and dey use it for daily driving...

 

i got them for $420 shipped, but i heard a few people tell me that the compression will be an issue, and i've heard some say its not. Now i'm unsure if i should keep them. The guys who's gonna tune it says more comp. would be better, but not necessary. Should i just sell the blox and get some BC III's?

 

i see.. man jus keep da blox b cams.. dude its not overcamming... compression? u be ok right now but u will get more gains wit itr pistons.. but dat can be later on..

 

which blox b's did you get, tuner or competition series?

 

the B s will work fine
with cheap dc headers
u should make in the 160whp on a dynojet
thats itr power!!!

If u don t plan on installing pistons
u can do a two layer headgasket
and mill the head

that will help out on compression

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sheepey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is no such thing as over cammed i dont think.... Just depends where you want ur power band :/</TD></TR></TABLE>Exactly. BTW JACK FM kicks ****!

 

thanks for the info guys, im gonna do the install and tune, type b tuner series by the way. I'm planning on doing the block hopefully by the end of this year. i already got some spoon itr domed pistons, rings, and wrist pins, but that'll be a bit down the line.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stealth1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which blox b's did you get, tuner or competition series?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same lift and durration on both cams the comp series has equil width non vtec lobes.

 

Anyone who says there's no such thing as over or under camming should spend a few hours talking to professional motor builders.

There's no point in putting a big cam into a motor if you don't have the compression to support it. You'll make more power across the board with a profile that better matches your compression ratio. There is zero opinion when it's said that compression makes power. Cam shaft selection is what takes advantage of that power potential. Bigger isn't always better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJDan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Same lift and durration on both cams the comp series has equil width non vtec lobes. </TD></TR></TABLE>

was under the impression tuner = regular skunk2 | competition = pro series?

 

The only thing you hafta watch is that with large cams you need to run more compression to get the full potential of the cams!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91SiZ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone who says there's no such thing as over or under camming should spend a few hours talking to professional motor builders.

There's no point in putting a big cam into a motor if you don't have the compression to support it. You'll make more power across the board with a profile that better matches your compression ratio. There is zero opinion when it's said that compression makes power. Cam shaft selection is what takes advantage of that power potential. Bigger isn't always better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then tell me something, and Omniman please. Why would he put a BC5 cam in a motor with only 10.7ish ?? You dont think thats big?? but yet it did make over 240whp.....IMO 270+ duration @ .050 is pretty big

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sheepey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Then tell me something, and Omniman please. Why would he put a BC5 cam in a motor with only 10.7ish ?? You dont think thats big?? but yet it did make over 240whp.....IMO 270+ duration @ .050 is pretty big </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he's saying that as a guideline not as a 'law' or a rule. While 10.7 is not that high I wonder what was the dispalcement on that motor. Because 2 liter or greater motors seem to be able to make alot of power with big cams.

This is pure speculation but I'm guessing that the dynamic compression (a calculated value) on a 2.0 liter motor with 10.7 static compression is about the same as a 1.8 liter with 12.0 static compression.


Modified by mar778c at 3:20 PM 8/20/2006