I have seen the pic of this on full-race's site but never figured it would happen to me also has this happened to anyone else ?? and what is the fix for this so it dosent happen again ???? any info would be great

 

happened to me before

 

so what is the cause of this ??? is the end of the case weak or something and cuses them to pull apart ???

 

Happened to me once also. I think the gears were just old and fragile.

 

i've seen this a couple of times... one theory is that with high horse power the tranny shafts start to pull apart in 4th gear and when that happens the teeth of fourth gear mesh at the tips which is where they are weakest and they shatter... buck02 makes a tranny craddle... it eliminates 5th gear but should solve the problem...ive installed one and it's pretty straight foward...

 

get a cradle and it wont happen again. Once the first tooth broke it was like shrapnel to break the rest.

 

this is also a street car , so I dont know how it will be with out a 5th gear , Iam going to weld some braces on to the case tomorrow and see how that go's , I think if I guesst it across at the end about where the "hand cuff" would sit , and I guess if it dont help , then atleast I will have to get one and bite the bullit and loose 5th gear ,

 

http://www.libertysgears.com they make a 5th gear handcuff which is more precise than the phantomgrip cuff. it give the gears proper "lash" instead of binding the shiot out of them. you can also clip the countershaft back into the case half,(unlike the phantomgrip cuff) liberty also has great customer service, and will answer any questions you might have on your installation.


http://www.libertysgears.com/frontwheeldrive.htm

-Honda B-Series Handcuff-
Designed to replace 5th gear section when using the transmission as 4-speed. Reduces shaft separation and case loads. All bearings and spacers included.
$185.00

 

Now if I did make it a 4 speed what 4th gear should I use ??? because it is a gsr trans at the moment with a quafie ,

 

find the replacement 4th.
GearSpeedinc.

 

I dont see it on the site , so I will probly have to call them tomorrow , btw what are you running in your trans ??? does there replacment 4th have a diffrent a diffrent ratio if you dont run a 5th gear ???

 

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in the hotrod we are running a circuitworx 4.7 final/stock hydro b16 gearset/liberty cuff/28's .... 4th gear remain the same, you shouldnt need to shift into 5th on the track.

 

I see well I made some braces for the case today , I will have pics up of it later , but just by putting it in gear and turning the input by hand you can tell the gears are biteing deeper into the gears

 

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bingo dead on the money, this has happened to a friend of mine on here, twice. he just received the handcuff, and will have it all back together soon

 

Well I made this today , I figure I would give it a shot , lol I figure it is kinda like a "CUFF LINK" just on the out side , hehe tranny feels like it shifts more solid and gears feel like they mesh alot more also ,

 

damn...looks good, hope it works out

 

up for updated pic's

 

i cant see how that helps anything?

 

wont welding up the case shrink it. Everythnig i have welded up has shrunk. I figured a peice of alum cut to fit around the case and bolted up would work just as well. Hope it works out.

 

if it shrank at all I could not tell , it slid on just like it did b4 , so far when shifting it feels realy firm , alot more firm then b4 and still shifts like butter , I figure what is the worst that will happen you know ??? it will just break again , haha

 

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It dosent let the end of the case flex out as much, I havent seen any one try it so I figured I would give it a shot

 

I did it about 4 years ago, didn't help. I find it pretty hard to belive that you can feel a difference in shifting it though.

 

no , what are you running for a trans ??

 

Stock, about 30 passes so far at 10.40 or better.

 

wow , maybe mine was just some freak deal then , I dont know ,