og_hatch_90

is there any "cost effective" way to do this in a 3 door hatch? i only ask because of the wagovans being practically the same chasis and the crv tranny being able to support awd. there has to be a way to crossbreed the two to make it work properly. has it been done and could it be done for a few thousand dollars AT THE MOST?

reason being, im shooting for an outrageous amount of whp via crvtec turbo and traction is going to be a bitch. also if it is possible would i be giving up the option of lsd?

dxtosirex

I saw an artical in Honda tuner they took a 94 integra gsr and put a crv rear end and driveshaft into it so it made it awd. it looked to me like too mutch cutting and welding. if you know how to do that stuff then go for it. in the long run its gonna cost a lot, unless you find a cheep wrecked crv.

og_hatch_90

thats what i was going to look for, a wrecked crv...like a roll over or something. i dont think im up for it though, someone mentioned the drivetrain might not stand up to the hp im pushing for.

CRX Toad

Did you get your answer over here? http://www.carolinahondas.com/...91005

From board above
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SM00TH976 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you want an awd car just get a DSM. it's pointless to engineer a whole new chassis when mitsubishi already did a damn good job with theirs.

for what you'd spend converting a honda to awd you could have a 12 second dsm. i mean i know you're loyal to honda, but are you loyal enough to spend three times as much money to acheive the same goal?

btw, if you have to ask questions like these, you will never see 500whp, let alone 700whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Here are some links to help you https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch , AWD CIVIC

When will you people ever learn.

Spec...G@rage

There is really no reason to be asking about a cost effective awd Honda. If you are interested in doing this you would not be doing it for cost effectiveness. I am at heart a Honda Guy however Honda does not offer an AWD. There are many other companys which you could choose from.

However, I have contimplated this idea before. If you are lookin for an AWD honda you are doing it to be different. ( Cost then becomes much less of an importance.)

AWD Hondas have been done and are possible. The cost however depends on weather or not you will be doing the work yourself.

Within the next year or so I plan on starting this project with my 1991 CRX. When the project starts I will be sure to keep you all updated. All of the work will be done by myself and another Buddy.

Tippyman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Toad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here are some links to help you https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch , AWD CIVIC</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bastard...

QuarterMileMaster

I swear, why is it nescessary to have like one of these a week... Unless you have the skill to completely rebuild/reinforce the whole rear drivetrain and the output shaft of the tranny don't plan on going over 160 whp safely and definately plan on spending a lot of money and time. Not worth it.

ludesrv

You are gay for wanting to hurt a honda like that.

Go buy a Talon and end it.

Contender25

The 88/89 4 door civic wagon was 4wd or all wheel drive i think, you could try swappin a Zc onto that tranny in that car and see what you put down.

Mugencrxsir1

Yeah, go by a talon anyways, they are faster than honda's. Atleast at the drag strip, but that's not why you own a honda is it. I can't be any happier with my crx, god I love hondas!!!

But here's a vid of a talon in my area about 3 years ago, I posted it last week in FI,

http://s75.photobucket.com/alb...8.flv

Contender25

Yes, you are correct, honda's aren't suppose to be drag cars unless you dumped alot of money into them. You gotta think like "Spoon" they are suppose to be fun decently powerful comfy street cars with good handling and a happy driver.

og_hatch_90

ok this went downhill fast. a few haters and a couple of dumb quotes and now we are here...it was a spur of the moment idea for a semi-solution to traction issues, it wont work without a lot of money and even then it might not be worth it, i get it. i thought about the numerous RWD (optional AWD) civics and tegs ive seen and figured..ef it...maybe i could do the same to help get some power to the ground, thats all i have to say to all you bashers. "cost effective" was in quotes because i know it wouldnt be cheap by any means.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are gay for wanting to hurt a honda like that.

Go buy a Talon and end it.</TD></TR></TABLE> you are gay for telling me to buy a dsm...you totally missed the point, and they arent appealing to me at all.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Contender25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 88/89 4 door civic wagon was 4wd or all wheel drive i think, you could try swappin a Zc onto that tranny in that car and see what you put down. </TD></TR></TABLE> you can and its been done, but zc's are pretty much made of glass.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugencrxsir1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, go by a talon anyways, they are faster than honda's. Atleast at the drag strip</TD></TR></TABLE> what logic did you use to come up with this??? there are so many factors on what makes a car faster than another one that you cant narrow it down to one model is faster than another....retard.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Contender25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, you are correct, honda's aren't suppose to be drag cars unless you dumped alot of money into them. You gotta think like "Spoon" they are suppose to be fun decently powerful comfy street cars with good handling and a happy driver. </TD></TR></TABLE> you also arent the brightest retard in the class....no production car is "supposed" to be a drag car without modding which costs money. also, hondas probably have more aftermarket parts than any other make so why not build them? i plan on dumping a ridiculous amount of money into my car and being completely satisfied and having no regrets about it. btw spoon isnt ****, very light NA on a honda is pointless..even more so when it costs as much as spoon.

im done, on a side note, at least people bothered to respon to this post so youre all winners! good job.

jdm_dc_fan

iTrader: (1)

spoon and drag racing have nothing to do with each other.....so why was that brought up.lol

QuarterMileMaster

[QUOTE=og_hatch_90] you can and its been done, but zc's are pretty much made of glass.QUOTE]

Where in the world did you get that info from?? Have you seen ZC Rods? There is a guy in Houston running 278 whp on a stock ZC block. And if you were such a know it all then why did you bother posting or why didn't you just do a search cuz this has been covered a billion times. Anything can be done if your wallet is deep enough. But if you want to be intelligent about it and want to fix traction issues, get an LSD and try slicks up front with somewhat stiff springs (425 lbs) and extremely stiff springs in back (550 lbs). Or just buy a launch kit. Done.

thevtecnician

I've seen it done before. But the car had a stock motor with only light mods. It was a rally car

Contender25

Cause spoon isn't drag, you wanna be a ****** BITCH about it then im not gonna be nice and reply to you're ****** posts anymore you ****** dipshit.

Yeah you can make it a drag car, but it will cost alot, you wanna show me when you're done "which will probally never happen in you're case" just for ***** and giggles let me know when you blow it up bum.

Contender25

Lol...i was just thinking, how many people come on honda-tech everyday saying they are gonna be a pro drag racer or have a drag car like some ****** ricer. Bitch fact is, if you had a bunch of money you wouldn't own a honda, you would own a lambo or ferrari, now suck my dick cause it's true.

QuarterMileMaster

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Contender25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol...i was just thinking, how many people come on honda-tech everyday saying they are gonna be a pro drag racer or have a drag car like some ****** ricer. Bitch fact is, if you had a bunch of money you wouldn't own a honda, you would own a lambo or ferrari, now suck my dick cause it's true. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought the EXACT same thing (minus a few explitives...)

og_hatch_90

some people man i swear to god....why be satisfied with a stock lambo or wtf ever...ooo i have 500+hp stock...look at my car and all the other ones just like it. wtf do you drive? i favor ef's, i want mine to be the best it can be. its personal satisfaction and having your car as a statement that you put in a lot of **** to make it what it is. im no ******* ricer. never said **** about having a drag team and being a pro driver...it would be nice..but im being realistic. my cars completion is a goal i have set for myself before i go to school to be a professional engine builder, open up a shop and then i will try to start a drag project on the side. your ignorance has gotten the best of you so just stfu to avoid further humility. never claimed to be a know it all...and no ******* **** ANYTHING can be done with an unlimited amount of money. i didnt say, if i had a million dollars could i have an awd civic that came as FF from the factory. the issue was the most reliable and cheapest way to go awd. ZC's are pure ****, i couldnt not find a SINGLE block that hadnt at least spun a bearing which is why i shifted to b series. d series are shitty and with the same amount of work/money you can have a b series that will put it to shame any day. i still have a zc head that i have no use for due to never being able to find a block that wasnt trashed. there isnt much point in this going any further, im sticking to fwd and to anyone that was in the least bit negative, youre gay. dont fill up my thread with your worthless bullshit opinions and ignorant statements.

og_hatch_90

with as much horsepower as i will have, slicks, suspension, and lsd will only go so far, thats why i was trying to think of something else to help transfer as much power to the ground as possible. does anyone make a spool/locker than you can disengage for turning since my car will be driven on the street more so than the track? high hp will be for the track only, it will be drastically detuned for riding around town.

i will be racing about four days each month during the season at the optimal level of power. full tune will be for dyno comps/just to say i have XXXwhp, other than that it will be a weekend driver.

Mugencrxsir1

Man realistically, you can buid an AWD honda, but you will need atleast 6k in your pocket right now, and do all of the fab work yourself, and have access to a few junkyards. You know the answer to this question and wanted to get everyones opinion, it takes a lot of fabbing. Goodluck

Contender25

Hey man i apologize for being ignorant but most of it is the truth AND everything you said is too and fair and all. You can do whatever you want IMO, but it's up to you to really make somethin of it, not alot of people manage to pull it off, i personally have alot of passion for my ef "actually ED" but anyways i have plans too. The car is not gonna be a drag car, but i would hope to see my car with nice set of wheels and paint "someday" whenever that is, and im not gonna lie either..it will probally take me a while.

vegaskurt

Moral of the story...

To do an AWD B series in a hatch you will need to use a CRV transmission. And unless you can swap in some better gears I cant see how it would be fun to drive.

Ass$nyper

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vegaskurt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Moral of the story...</TD></TR></TABLE>
DONT SMOKE CRACK

SIred91

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ***-assin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
DONT SMOKE CRACK </TD></TR></TABLE>

man, thats EXACTLY what I was going to say. Great minds think alike.

And I think cause Im on the net here, that Im going to build and awd Ferrari with a V28 quad turbo and nitrous with a kagillion horsepower and a kagillion ft lbs to match so I can race all the "awd civics" all the crack monkeys keep asking about.

to each his or her own though. Im happy with my rex the way Honda intended it.